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SSJ Vegeta (Namek Saga) plays the numbers game; SSJ Vegeta vs Frieza (again)
Topic Started: Feb 28 2015, 06:53 AM (1,095 Views)
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He probably thinking of the time where KKx3 Goku's KHH was equal to Vegeta's Galic Gun in power despite Goku having the power advantage.
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Mar 1 2015, 06:12 AM
He probably thinking of the time where KKx3 Goku's KHH was equal to Vegeta's Galic Gun in power despite Goku having the power advantage.
Yes that is what I'm saying the galik gun without any amplification was a match for the kamehameha with a x3 Kaio-Ken
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Mar 1 2015, 02:19 AM
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Feb 28 2015, 09:24 PM
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Feb 28 2015, 09:00 PM
Crippling puts you out of a fight. Even a broken arm is going to be enough for Freeza to horribly destroy Vegeta's offensive and defensive power to the point where the fight turns bad.

Also, Vegeta isn't going to try and run and hide. It's not in his character. More than likely, he'll fight head on like he always does and if he does that, he WILL fail to stop the Nova Strike. Freeza was capable of plowing into a Kamehameha and being fine, a Freeza who had lost stamina mind you. Freeza has a lot more gas in the tank this time and Vegeta's Galick Gun isn't as tough as Kamehameha. Even if Freeza can't smash through it, he can go around it like he did the Kamehameha and then hit Vegeta into the ground. An attack that winds SSJ Goku is going to end the fight if it hits Vegeta.
Oh really and what about when vegeta ran from Ginyu when goku asked him for help or played cat and mouse with other characters in the Namek saga if he uses his brain he can do it tactical wearing down Frieza until he can beat him
And the galik gun I my opinion is superior to the kamehameha
Vegeta also swaggered right up to Freeza when he thought he was an SSJ and didn't even bother to retreat when he realized he failed. He was too busy crying to retreat. This won't be any different, he'll realize SSJ isn't an insta-win code, lose his s*** and spam ki attacks, fail, start crying, gg

Also, how on Earth is the Galick Gun better than the Kamehameha?
I know that's what he would probably do but I'm saying if he used his so brilliant mind piccolo said he has he could defiantly find a way to stall frieza until he gets worn out
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Piccolo saying that was nonsensical. He only had to bluff 20 because he was too busy showing off with 19 and nearly got himself drained. Hell, he did get partially drained.

As for the Kamehameha, that puts Vegeta's amp a 1.33x. The Kamehameha at its weakest is 2.2x amp. The only reason Vegeta deadlocked that is because Kamehameha amp and Kaioken don't stack.
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Mar 1 2015, 12:45 PM
Piccolo saying that was nonsensical. He only had to bluff 20 because he was too busy showing off with 19 and nearly got himself drained. Hell, he did get partially drained.

As for the Kamehameha, that puts Vegeta's amp a 1.33x. The Kamehameha at its weakest is 2.2x amp. The only reason Vegeta deadlocked that is because Kamehameha amp and Kaioken don't stack.
Explain why the kamehameha and the kio-Ken don't stack?
once upon a time there lived a man, this man had all the awensers to every question man made, however he could not speak, when he awoke one morning he found two men discussing a topic he was all too familiar with so as usual he tried to explain the awenser to them, but they just ignored him and carried on at that momment a box came along and told the man:
"If you really want people to hear your ideas even if you are right to cant just tell them they must serch for it, if you like you can live inside me and people can come and ask me there questions and i shall respond with your awensers"
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Because Freeza one hand blocks the Kamehameha when Goku is in Kaioken x20, if the amp were still there, that blast would have mutilated the guy.
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Mar 1 2015, 02:26 PM
Because Freeza one hand blocks the Kamehameha when Goku is in Kaioken x20, if the amp were still there, that blast would have mutilated the guy.
in the beam clash Vegta put all his power into the Galic Gun (at the time goku needed the kioken
To keep up) and still got beat by the kamehameha what was only that powerful becuse of the kioken boost if not that blast would have decimated Goku

That kiokenkamehameha x20 was only an inconsistency in my opinion

if not that's like trying to say I have a power that makes me 2x as strong but I can still only puch as hard as normal
once upon a time there lived a man, this man had all the awensers to every question man made, however he could not speak, when he awoke one morning he found two men discussing a topic he was all too familiar with so as usual he tried to explain the awenser to them, but they just ignored him and carried on at that momment a box came along and told the man:
"If you really want people to hear your ideas even if you are right to cant just tell them they must serch for it, if you like you can live inside me and people can come and ask me there questions and i shall respond with your awensers"
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There are only two instances of the Kaioken Kamehameha and the amp not stacking makes a ton more sense. It's already really strange that Vegeta survived a Kaioken x4 without the amp, if you count amp, Vegeta should have been capable of tanking Zarbon.

Which makes more sense, Vegeta barely surviving 32,000 or Vegeta barely surviving something like 70,000?
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Mar 1 2015, 03:47 PM
There are only two instances of the Kaioken Kamehameha and the amp not stacking makes a ton more sense. It's already really strange that Vegeta survived a Kaioken x4 without the amp, if you count amp, Vegeta should have been capable of tanking Zarbon.

Which makes more sense, Vegeta barely surviving 32,000 or Vegeta barely surviving something like 70,000?
so how could gokus kamehameha beat vegeta's galic gun if it didnt have the kioken stack

because Goku was still so weak he couldn't match vegeta until he used the kioken
once upon a time there lived a man, this man had all the awensers to every question man made, however he could not speak, when he awoke one morning he found two men discussing a topic he was all too familiar with so as usual he tried to explain the awenser to them, but they just ignored him and carried on at that momment a box came along and told the man:
"If you really want people to hear your ideas even if you are right to cant just tell them they must serch for it, if you like you can live inside me and people can come and ask me there questions and i shall respond with your awensers"
The man nodded and lived inside the box,people constantly consult the box for awensers but sometimes dont believe it,You know what the mans name was:
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