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SSJ Vegeta (Namek Saga) plays the numbers game; SSJ Vegeta vs Frieza (again)
Topic Started: Feb 28 2015, 06:53 AM (1,096 Views)
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Post-Healing Vegeta goes SSJ against Frieza who is at:
Round 1. 50% power
Round 2. 75% power
Round 3. 80% power
Round 4. 85% power
Round 5. 90% power
Round 6. 95% power
Round 7. 100% power

Bonus: Worn out Frieza (when Goku tries to leave the first time); Kiensan can be used in this round for either player if backed into a corner.

How much of Frieza's power can the prince handle?
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I have Vegeta around 80-85 % Freeza. He can likely beat those in an even fight, but it would be a close match and not assured by any means.

The higher Freeza's power goes from there, the worst his chances until 100% where Freeza can pretty much three-shot him with a Nova Strike combo.

Bonus Round has them around equal in power for me, but Freeza is under far greater strain than Vegeta here. Vegeta might sense the disc coming, he might not as his ki sensing isn't all to refined
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I think he'll beat 95% frieza then 100% I'd say 50/50 if frieza can get a combo in then lauch a ki blast attack vegeta is done for but if vegeta can hold him off with ki blasts and speed for a minute frieza will get worn out and then gets pummelled and Galik gunned into dust by vegeta
Edited by Ssj3 Vegeta, Feb 28 2015, 01:19 PM.
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Feb 28 2015, 01:16 PM
I think he'll beat 95% frieza then 100% I'd say 50/50 if frieza can get a combo in then lauch a ki blast attack vegeta is done for but if vegeta can hold him off with ki blasts and speed for a minute frieza will get worn out and then gets pummelled and Galik gunned into dust by vegeta
How would ki blasts help Vegeta? And Freeza is a speedy guy, if we're playing the speed game, he trumps Vegeta. For that matter, Freeza's power doesn't decrease THAT quickly either and Vegeta is too reckless to play keep away anyway
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Freeza can't maintained his 100% form. Vegeta could survive that fight and after Freeza's ki starting to drain Vegeta would destroy him by a huge amp blast. He wouldn't show any mercy to him anyway.
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lazerbem
Feb 28 2015, 03:34 PM
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Feb 28 2015, 01:16 PM
I think he'll beat 95% frieza then 100% I'd say 50/50 if frieza can get a combo in then lauch a ki blast attack vegeta is done for but if vegeta can hold him off with ki blasts and speed for a minute frieza will get worn out and then gets pummelled and Galik gunned into dust by vegeta
How would ki blasts help Vegeta? And Freeza is a speedy guy, if we're playing the speed game, he trumps Vegeta. For that matter, Freeza's power doesn't decrease THAT quickly either and Vegeta is too reckless to play keep away anyway
So you think dogging ki blasts that can hurt Frieza won't tire him out quicker i mean they can at least slow him down if Vegeta
shows his tactical side and doesn't act like a dumba** hell last long enough that frieza will get wore out and then Vegeta can pummel him
once upon a time there lived a man, this man had all the awensers to every question man made, however he could not speak, when he awoke one morning he found two men discussing a topic he was all too familiar with so as usual he tried to explain the awenser to them, but they just ignored him and carried on at that momment a box came along and told the man:
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Feb 28 2015, 03:55 PM
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Feb 28 2015, 03:34 PM
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Feb 28 2015, 01:16 PM
I think he'll beat 95% frieza then 100% I'd say 50/50 if frieza can get a combo in then lauch a ki blast attack vegeta is done for but if vegeta can hold him off with ki blasts and speed for a minute frieza will get worn out and then gets pummelled and Galik gunned into dust by vegeta
How would ki blasts help Vegeta? And Freeza is a speedy guy, if we're playing the speed game, he trumps Vegeta. For that matter, Freeza's power doesn't decrease THAT quickly either and Vegeta is too reckless to play keep away anyway
So you think dogging ki blasts that can hurt Frieza won't tire him out quicker i mean they can at least slow him down if Vegeta
shows his tactical side and doesn't act like a dumba** hell last long enough that frieza will get wore out and then Vegeta can pummel him
Except that Freeza doesn't need to dodge when he has Nova Strike to just fly through them and smash Vegeta's ribcage. That attack winded SSJ Goku, it's going to cripple Vegeta
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I Have Vegeta At 120m and Frieza at 145m
So Vegeta Stops at 85% Freeza IMO
Bonus:50/50
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Feb 28 2015, 04:38 PM
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Feb 28 2015, 03:55 PM
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Feb 28 2015, 03:34 PM
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Feb 28 2015, 01:16 PM
I think he'll beat 95% frieza then 100% I'd say 50/50 if frieza can get a combo in then lauch a ki blast attack vegeta is done for but if vegeta can hold him off with ki blasts and speed for a minute frieza will get worn out and then gets pummelled and Galik gunned into dust by vegeta
How would ki blasts help Vegeta? And Freeza is a speedy guy, if we're playing the speed game, he trumps Vegeta. For that matter, Freeza's power doesn't decrease THAT quickly either and Vegeta is too reckless to play keep away anyway
So you think dogging ki blasts that can hurt Frieza won't tire him out quicker i mean they can at least slow him down if Vegeta
shows his tactical side and doesn't act like a dumba** hell last long enough that frieza will get wore out and then Vegeta can pummel him
Except that Freeza doesn't need to dodge when he has Nova Strike to just fly through them and smash Vegeta's ribcage. That attack winded SSJ Goku, it's going to cripple Vegeta
So frieza goes in for a Nove strike and Vegeta lets say starts to fly away with a similar move well I don't think frieza is gonna catch him before he gets tired then vegeta turns around and well galik gun to the face and poof

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Frieza does his nova strike Vegeta only has to do a explosive wave to counter it and then Frieza will get more worn out the longer he try's to push his way through the wave and eventually won't be able to keep it up and then the wave vaporizes him
once upon a time there lived a man, this man had all the awensers to every question man made, however he could not speak, when he awoke one morning he found two men discussing a topic he was all too familiar with so as usual he tried to explain the awenser to them, but they just ignored him and carried on at that momment a box came along and told the man:
"If you really want people to hear your ideas even if you are right to cant just tell them they must serch for it, if you like you can live inside me and people can come and ask me there questions and i shall respond with your awensers"
The man nodded and lived inside the box,people constantly consult the box for awensers but sometimes dont believe it,You know what the mans name was:
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Feb 28 2015, 05:02 PM
So frieza goes in for a Nove strike and Vegeta lets say starts to fly away with a similar move well I don't think frieza is gonna catch him before he gets tired then vegeta turns around and well galik gun to the face and poof

If he could keep up with Goku's speed what's stopping him from keeping up with, or even outpacing, Vegeta?

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Frieza does his nova strike Vegeta only has to do a explosive wave to counter it and then Frieza will get more worn out the longer he try's to push his way through the wave and eventually won't be able to keep it up and then the wave vaporizes him


Frieza was holding out against SSJ Goku's KHH in what could be regarded as a stalemate. Frieza's Nova strike will overpower anything weaker than that . It's that simple.
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Feb 28 2015, 06:43 PM
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Feb 28 2015, 05:02 PM
So frieza goes in for a Nove strike and Vegeta lets say starts to fly away with a similar move well I don't think frieza is gonna catch him before he gets tired then vegeta turns around and well galik gun to the face and poof

If he could keep up with Goku's speed what's stopping him from keeping up with, or even outpacing, Vegeta?

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Frieza does his nova strike Vegeta only has to do a explosive wave to counter it and then Frieza will get more worn out the longer he try's to push his way through the wave and eventually won't be able to keep it up and then the wave vaporizes him


Frieza was holding out against SSJ Goku's KHH in what could be regarded as a stalemate. Frieza's Nova strike will overpower anything weaker than that . It's that simple.
So substitute the explosive wave with an amp attack (personally I think that the Nove strike would cripple vegeta but not put him out the fight for good)
once upon a time there lived a man, this man had all the awensers to every question man made, however he could not speak, when he awoke one morning he found two men discussing a topic he was all too familiar with so as usual he tried to explain the awenser to them, but they just ignored him and carried on at that momment a box came along and told the man:
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Crippling puts you out of a fight. Even a broken arm is going to be enough for Freeza to horribly destroy Vegeta's offensive and defensive power to the point where the fight turns bad.

Also, Vegeta isn't going to try and run and hide. It's not in his character. More than likely, he'll fight head on like he always does and if he does that, he WILL fail to stop the Nova Strike. Freeza was capable of plowing into a Kamehameha and being fine, a Freeza who had lost stamina mind you. Freeza has a lot more gas in the tank this time and Vegeta's Galick Gun isn't as tough as Kamehameha. Even if Freeza can't smash through it, he can go around it like he did the Kamehameha and then hit Vegeta into the ground. An attack that winds SSJ Goku is going to end the fight if it hits Vegeta.
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Feb 28 2015, 09:00 PM
Crippling puts you out of a fight. Even a broken arm is going to be enough for Freeza to horribly destroy Vegeta's offensive and defensive power to the point where the fight turns bad.

Also, Vegeta isn't going to try and run and hide. It's not in his character. More than likely, he'll fight head on like he always does and if he does that, he WILL fail to stop the Nova Strike. Freeza was capable of plowing into a Kamehameha and being fine, a Freeza who had lost stamina mind you. Freeza has a lot more gas in the tank this time and Vegeta's Galick Gun isn't as tough as Kamehameha. Even if Freeza can't smash through it, he can go around it like he did the Kamehameha and then hit Vegeta into the ground. An attack that winds SSJ Goku is going to end the fight if it hits Vegeta.
Oh really and what about when vegeta ran from Ginyu when goku asked him for help or played cat and mouse with other characters in the Namek saga if he uses his brain he can do it tactical wearing down Frieza until he can beat him
And the galik gun I my opinion is superior to the kamehameha
Edited by Ssj3 Vegeta, Feb 28 2015, 09:25 PM.
once upon a time there lived a man, this man had all the awensers to every question man made, however he could not speak, when he awoke one morning he found two men discussing a topic he was all too familiar with so as usual he tried to explain the awenser to them, but they just ignored him and carried on at that momment a box came along and told the man:
"If you really want people to hear your ideas even if you are right to cant just tell them they must serch for it, if you like you can live inside me and people can come and ask me there questions and i shall respond with your awensers"
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If you use multipliers (which I don't) then he probably just about is equal with 50% Frieza, in my opinion.
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Crippling puts you out of a fight. Even a broken arm is going to be enough for Freeza to horribly destroy Vegeta's offensive and defensive power to the point where the fight turns bad.

Also, Vegeta isn't going to try and run and hide. It's not in his character. More than likely, he'll fight head on like he always does and if he does that, he WILL fail to stop the Nova Strike. Freeza was capable of plowing into a Kamehameha and being fine, a Freeza who had lost stamina mind you. Freeza has a lot more gas in the tank this time and Vegeta's Galick Gun isn't as tough as Kamehameha. Even if Freeza can't smash through it, he can go around it like he did the Kamehameha and then hit Vegeta into the ground. An attack that winds SSJ Goku is going to end the fight if it hits Vegeta.
Oh really and what about when vegeta ran from Ginyu when goku asked him for help or played cat and mouse with other characters in the Namek saga if he uses his brain he can do it tactical wearing down Frieza until he can beat him
And the galik gun I my opinion is superior to the kamehameha
Vegeta also swaggered right up to Freeza when he thought he was an SSJ and didn't even bother to retreat when he realized he failed. He was too busy crying to retreat. This won't be any different, he'll realize SSJ isn't an insta-win code, lose his s*** and spam ki attacks, fail, start crying, gg

Also, how on Earth is the Galick Gun better than the Kamehameha?
Edited by lazerbem, Mar 1 2015, 02:20 AM.
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