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Yamcha (Android Saga) vs Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)
Topic Started: Feb 22 2015, 12:08 AM (5,796 Views)
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Feb 22 2015, 02:36 AM
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Feb 22 2015, 02:34 AM
That is the irrelevant part. He wouldn't need to in order to have prepared for it.
I don't get it.

He was obviously prepared because he made himself so strong but he didn't expect Goku to become much stronger and he didn't even know that Goku would know of their existence so why would Goku already be powered up?
You answered your own question.
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Feb 22 2015, 02:38 AM
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Feb 22 2015, 02:36 AM
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Feb 22 2015, 02:34 AM
That is the irrelevant part. He wouldn't need to in order to have prepared for it.
I don't get it.

He was obviously prepared because he made himself so strong but he didn't expect Goku to become much stronger and he didn't even know that Goku would know of their existence so why would Goku already be powered up?
You answered your own question.
I don't get it.

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I lack sufficient funds to make this clearer for all to see. Apologies.
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Feb 22 2015, 02:45 AM
I lack sufficient funds to make this clearer for all to see. Apologies.
Here's what I mean:

Dr. Gero expects Goku not to have improved a lot. He sees Yamcha and mistakes him for Goku but neither Yamcha or Goku were powered-up or did anything resembling it when they first met him. Even after having seen Yamcha, he expects Goku to still not have improved a lot so Yamcha didn't change his outlook on that (he didn't say Yamcha was a lot stronger than expected either).
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You think far too deeply on this, sir.
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ok

you could have said this from the beginning.
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You have given no evidence to prove me wrong.
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Feb 22 2015, 02:55 AM
You have given no evidence to prove me wrong.
except i did you just said i am thinking to deep into it.
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No, you posted nothing but hot air. I see no evidence to deflate my claims.
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Gero's model was accurate. The only thing he didn't consider was Super Saiyan.
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So what about what Dr. Gero said?

What is your evidence?

Yamcha thought it was a joke or else you'd have to tell me he was stronger than Frieza since he was confident.

And I never tried to debunk you, just make you think.
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Gero never said Goku would not improve significantly after the battle with Vegeta. He stated that it was calculated for. Goku after training in 100x gravity was far superior to his power on Earth, yet would have been squashed by Gero. Gero calculated Goku's power growing marginally, he did not calculate for that increase to then be multiplied 50x however.

Naturally he confused Yamcha for Goku as he was not accurately analysing the power levels, seeing a level outstandingly larger than the others will obviously bring the thought of Goku to mind. after further analysis he realised it wasn't goku.
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So Yamcha has to be only stronger than an average human to stand out.
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Yamcha has to be stronger than the last power level, that Gero collected from Goku in order to mistake him. The absolute lowest margin in that case is 24 000. Still stronger than Vegie.
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Trunks saga yamcha would murder vegeta. Gero thought he could give him a decent source of energy: how can a power level < 18000 be considered a good source by a being who is in the high millions? Furthermore he probably wasn't at full power: infact piccolo told the humans to raise their power levels if they found the androids, how can he raise his power if he was alrealdy at full power? He was supressed. In sayan saga, when kuririn & co arrived their power levels were supressed ( krillin's was 1083, piccolo's 1220) so i don't see why yamcha can't be supressed. And, moreover, how could someone <18000 survive a fight with a cell jr? I know they were toying around, but c'mon, the gap would be way too big
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