Captain America(movie) vs Ozymandias(movie)

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Captain America(movie) vs Ozymandias(movie)
Tweet Topic Started: Feb 18 2015, 02:25 AM (643 Views)
+ Steve	Feb 18 2015, 02:25 AM Post #1
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	No weapons including Cap's shield. Takes place in New York at the time of Avengers 1. Cap has no supersuit since the extra durability would make him OP. I think this would be close, Cap seems a touch stronger and more durable but Ozy is far smarter, more skilled and has better reflexes. Ozymandias feats: Wrecks a well trained war veteran, catches a thrown meat cleaver, throws a grown man through bulletproof glass(or plate glass can't remember) Dodges bullets using cover, speed and reflexes. He knew the attack was coming but the gunman didn't know that. Calmly defeats two vigilante's capable of this level of combat ability.
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Feb 18 2015, 07:45 AM Post #2
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	is Ozy super human? caps suit doesn't give him that much extra durability, its mostly him thats taking damage suit would just resist, cuts and tasers for the most part, not too much physical damage thats mostly rodgers i think cap has more of a good adv in strength, lifting support beam and what not has ozy done anything close? if not cap has a good adv on him, but ozy does seem smarter for sure skill is debatable, cap beat winter soldier in skill in both their rounds, and winter soldier is supposed to be the best asset that hydra had, to add his arm has super strength and super reflexes, also cap beat like what 10 guys in the elevator scene that was nuts. cap also has the adv in agility and movement, being able to jump and move around great distances as well as run pretty darn fast the only thing that ozy seems to have over cap, is intelligence and maybe reflexes, and thats just cause i never have looked into caps reflexes........so..........yeah Edited by Havoc_Wreaker, Feb 18 2015, 07:46 AM.



+ Steve	Feb 18 2015, 12:31 PM Post #3
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	The only real strength feats from Ozy are throwing a guy through bulletproof glass and being able to kick grown men like over 10m away. It's hard to tell because nothing ever really challenged him that whole second fight there he wasn't even trying to kill them. As for superhuman I think he is superhuman in Watchmen but compared to Cap he's "peak human" or close to. I mean I'm not sure wth Marvel thinks a peak human can do but they're about similar in each category but intelligence. Winter Soldier didn't have super reflexes did he? I don't remember that thought it was just the arm and skill. Oh yeah and Ozy catches a bullet fired at him from like 2m away, if that. It doesn't go through his hand because of his glove but still a good reflex feat, he does it for lols too because someone jokes that he probably could so there's no doubt he could just dodge the bullet. Not much for durability, he lets himself get punched like 7 times in the face and doesn't particularly care. Nite Owl is in a rage too so he'd be hitting fairly hard.
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Feb 18 2015, 11:31 PM Post #4
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	well with good reflexes he would put up a fight for sure then



lazerbem	Feb 19 2015, 11:58 PM Post #5
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	With those reflexes, he should be capable of blitzing. That's Spider-Man level reflexes
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Feb 20 2015, 12:48 AM Post #6
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	lazerbem Feb 19 2015, 11:58 PM With those reflexes, he should be capable of blitzing. That's Spider-Man level reflexes lol no, he used cover for dodging, but the last shot was impressive he ducked though his reflexes are good, but cap is still faster and stronger and more durable ect... cap is not gonna go h2h too much on Ozy, hes gonna use his superior agility and movement and stamina to outlast Ozy, and its not like cap is a slouch in reflex department either



lazerbem	Feb 20 2015, 12:49 AM Post #7
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	If he can catch bullets, Cap is a joke to him.
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Feb 20 2015, 12:59 AM Post #8
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	he didn't catch a bullet though? look at when the last bullet was fired and when his hands go up, dont match at all maybe he used it as a distraction? if he could catch bullets why didn't he all along instead of the last one, in which he didnt but still cap would win, he has a big adv sans intelligence and maybe reflexes Edited by Havoc_Wreaker, Feb 20 2015, 01:01 AM.



+ Steve	Feb 20 2015, 08:19 PM Post #9
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Yondaime Feb 20 2015, 12:59 AM he didn't catch a bullet though? look at when the last bullet was fired and when his hands go up, dont match at all maybe he used it as a distraction? if he could catch bullets why didn't he all along instead of the last one, in which he didnt but still cap would win, he has a big adv sans intelligence and maybe reflexes It's a different scene where he catches a bullet: That's like 1.5 or 2 metres at best. I don't think he's fast enough to dodge like machine gun fire or anything but he's an expert at distraction like that hand movement against the assassin dude, makes him shoot early then he gets wrecked. Along with that throwing things to stop people from attacking in other ways, that laser from Nite Owl II for instance he throws the chair to distract NO II and make him shoot that. Not sure if that's related to intelligence or some kind of martial art he knows. I don't think stamina would be much of an issue this fight probably wouldn't last all that long not when they came together anyway considering his abilities Ozy's stamina must be fairly great too. So Ozy should take it on reflexes, intelligence and skill for sure and Cap has durability, probably stamina if it came in to play and strength for both is about the same. Each has their own thing to offer really.
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DSTREET45	Feb 20 2015, 10:39 PM Post #10
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	IIRC Ozy actually caught the bullet. Cap doesn't have much, if any bullet-timing feats IIRC so Ozy has him beat in reaction time. I might side with Ozy for the time being. Might be convinced otherwise though.



lazerbem	Feb 20 2015, 11:02 PM Post #11
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	DSTREET45 Feb 20 2015, 10:39 PM IIRC Ozy actually caught the bullet. Cap doesn't have much, if any bullet-timing feats IIRC so Ozy has him beat in reaction time. I might side with Ozy for the time being. Might be convinced otherwise though. Why'd he catch it instead of dodging? If he had a propensity for trying to tank things, he might get cocky? IDK much about this Ozy guy
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+ Steve	Feb 20 2015, 11:32 PM Post #12
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	lazerbem Feb 20 2015, 11:02 PM Why'd he catch it instead of dodging? If he had a propensity for trying to tank things, he might get cocky? IDK much about this Ozy guy I don't think he could tank a ton of bullets, a few certainly but he's not the sort to leave himself at a disadvantage he had every intention of being alive after his master plan. Taking all six of those rounds from a revolver would probably kill him or leave him severely wounded so he tricks them. After that clip he kicks the woman in to the stairs and is once again in control of the situation. That's why I give Cap durability, he's a lot meatier for sure. Although his suit is Kevlar which definitely accounts for some of his bullet tanking but I'm pretty sure he gets shot a few times in the first movie so weak 40's pistols he can take fairly well. Obviously not like 100 rounds or anything. Also Ozy is just peak human apparently. DC and Marvel have very strange ideas of what humans are physically capable of
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