Blade vs Captain America (Movies Versions)

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Blade vs Captain America (Movies Versions)
Tweet Topic Started: Feb 12 2015, 10:35 AM (1,834 Views)
DSTREET45	Feb 12 2015, 10:35 AM Post #1
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	VS Restrictions: Biting, Guns, pretty much all of Blade's standard gear other than his clothes and sword. Who wins? Edited by DSTREET45, Feb 13 2015, 03:10 AM.

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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Feb 12 2015, 11:02 PM Post #16
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	you'd have to disprove the bike not being real, not us, theres no reason for it not to be, hes hella strong and theres literally no reason to make it up...... propaganda sure, for regular people, we all know cap is more than just peak human his feats are all above what any human can do also cap never struggles against anyone unless there peak human, cap had some struggle with batroc meaning he should be peak human, just like winter soldier, watch all his fight scenes he never has any trouble against anyone but these two really i mean red skull a bit and the elevator scene where he was using one hand for most of the fight and was tased a few times so chances are batroc was peak human, all evidence suggests this even if cap loses his shield i doubt blade would use it and cap would go for cover until he gets his shield back also another feat is cap while getting stabbed with a knife lifts up the winter soldier with one hand, not too impressive but given the fact that one of winter soldiers arms has superhuman strength prolly means its pretty heavy



DSTREET45	Feb 13 2015, 12:09 AM Post #17
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	And honestly Cap only really struggled with Batroc when he was caught off-guard. When Cap put away his shield he took down Batroc fairly easily (he didn't even land a single hit at that point on-wards). Quote: also another feat is cap while getting stabbed with a knife lifts up the winter soldier with one hand, not too impressive but given the fact that one of winter soldiers arms has superhuman strength prolly means its pretty heavy It's also impressive since Cap was still capable of fighting despite being stabbed. Blade also had a similar feat of his own though. Edited by DSTREET45, Feb 13 2015, 12:14 AM.



+ Pyrus	Feb 13 2015, 12:23 AM Post #18
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Yeah, it's not up to us to disprove the bike feat. Try that O Razor juice.
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Feb 13 2015, 12:49 AM Post #19
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	yeah cap is definitely stronger no doubt, hes faster too he ran after a car in the first movie his stamina is on par if not better than blade, and he takes hits on much better and overall better durability but blade is faster in combat and probably h2h



DSTREET45	Feb 13 2015, 01:16 AM Post #20
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	Yondaime Feb 13 2015, 12:49 AM yeah cap is definitely stronger no doubt, hes faster too he ran after a car in the first movie his stamina is on par if not better than blade, and he takes hits on much better and overall better durability Strength I feel might be debatable (though I am hard pressed to find much strength feats for Blade) due to Blade's striking power. Stamina is also debatable IMO. Durability is probably Blade's advantage. Cap is tough but did he take hit's like this (this is a tired/injured Blade btw): and this and still keep fighting?



+ Steve	Feb 13 2015, 01:46 AM Post #21
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Considering you're offering it up as evidence it is you guys' job to prove it's a real bike and none of that was just for show. American propaganda was all about making America and it's soldiers looking superior in any way possible half the time it was like Arnie looking dudes gunning down skinny Japanese guys while smoking a cigar also using one arm and in the other is a hot babe. So yeah, it is indeed very likely they faked that they didn't even want Cap on the front lines at that point he was just the poster boy to get morale up. I mean just look how implausible that is, if any of those women moved or he moved his arms he'd go off balance peak human or not he doesn't weigh like a ton there'd have to be wires there to keep it steady. Well, there probably were making the movie but you know what I mean. Yeah on durability alone Blade should take this, unless Cap has grenades or something how could he even significantly damage Blade? Best he could realistically hope for is to pound in to blade for hours until his thirst weakens him. But even then, nice meaty body right there to bite in to or just those injection things. What does Blade have with him? If he has his standard gear then it's a total stomp.
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DSTREET45	Feb 13 2015, 02:58 AM Post #22
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	Steve Feb 13 2015, 01:46 AM Considering you're offering it up as evidence it is you guys' job to prove it's a real bike and none of that was just for show. American propaganda was all about making America and it's soldiers looking superior in any way possible half the time it was like Arnie looking dudes gunning down skinny Japanese guys while smoking a cigar also using one arm and in the other is a hot babe. So yeah, it is indeed very likely they faked that they didn't even want Cap on the front lines at that point he was just the poster boy to get morale up. Occam's Razor. That or it unlikely that they faked it since in order for that to be convincing Steve would've had to be holding the motorcycle from the beginning of the act to until the curtains. The montage indicates that this is something that happens at the end. The wire also have to be small enough to not be seen. Not to mention that they didn't want Cap to fight for CIS (on Tommy Lee Jones part) alone. The people he's working or aren't even the same people/person who didn't want him on the front lines. I'm pretty sure they'd be happy to show off how good he is. Quote: I mean just look how implausible that is, if any of those women moved or he moved his arms he'd go off balance peak human or not he doesn't weigh like a ton there'd have to be wires there to keep it steady. Well, there probably were making the movie but you know what I mean. It's pretty likely that Cap is able to balance the and adjust to their movement (assuming they are moving enough to tip it). And I don't see how it's that implausible given that cheerleaders do some variation of the same thing. With Cap's better balance and physicals I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do it. Quote: Yeah on durability alone Blade should take this, unless Cap has grenades or something how could he even significantly damage Blade? Cap should still be able to hurt him. Quote: Best he could realistically hope for is to pound in to blade for hours until his thirst weakens him. But even then, nice meaty body right there to bite in to or just those injection things. What does Blade have with him? If he has his standard gear then it's a total stomp. He only has his sword (so it could be even). Cap has his shield. I'm gonna restrict biting. I'll edit the OP.



+ Havoc_Wreaker	Feb 13 2015, 03:22 AM Post #23
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	i dont see how blades durability is as good as caps, in the video he fell off like a floor of the building and it cracked because it was likely tiles, but there was some extra damage so not a bad feat on the other hand cap jumped out of a building after being tased multiple times and cracked some of the concrete cap fell from a much high distance and his lower half of his body took all the force while his upper half was reduced cause he landed on the shield, cap also took a grenade launcher that hit his shield and went flying off the highway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Avymog_CEQ also cap has took multiple hits from winter soldier who has superhuman strength, not even caps shield could even destroy or dent the arm, when he was slicing EVERYTHING with it in avengers and cap 1 and 2 so durability def goes to cap



+ Steve	Feb 13 2015, 03:29 AM Post #24
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	DSTREET45 Feb 13 2015, 02:58 AM Occam's Razor. That or it unlikely that they faked it since in order for that to be convincing Steve would've had to be holding the motorcycle from the beginning of the act to until the curtains. The montage indicates that this is something that happens at the end. The wire also have to be small enough to not be seen. Not to mention that they didn't want Cap to fight for CIS (on Tommy Lee Jones part) alone. The people he's working or aren't even the same people/person who didn't want him on the front lines. I'm pretty sure they'd be happy to show off how good he is. It's pretty likely that Cap is able to balance the and adjust to their movement (assuming they are moving enough to tip it). And I don't see how it's that implausible given that cheerleaders do some variation of the same thing. With Cap's better balance and physicals I don't see why he shouldn't be able to do it. Cap should still be able to hurt him. He only has his sword (so it could be even). Cap has his shield. I'm gonna restrict biting. I'll edit the OP. Not really stuff like that is easy to fake especially to an audience in what the forties? Magic has been around way longer than that wouldn't really take much to fake it. Yeah they didn't want him to fight, they wanted him to be the symbol of the American war effort so they'd naturally over-exaggerate their most important soldier wouldn't they? Would be kinda hard with the bike though that things weight would offset balance easily...unless it was a fake bike. How could he? Cap's never delivered a punch with the kind of force Blade shrugs off, plus healing. They might sting a bit but no way would he ever do anything significant like knock him out or break a bone. Sword included Blade should win. 0:45 Blades dexterity and the speed his weapon gives would easily bypass the shields defence Blade could just grab it and cut him up, there's no way that even if Cap was as strong as Blade that he could resist the shield being held in place. And lets not forget his first idea is to chuck the shield at his opponent half the time, that would fail badly. If Cap has knowledge of Blade then he has a chance, I guess but note Blade didn't even unsheathe his sword there and wasn't even trying to kill them. The grenade launcher feat is decent albeit extremely inconsistent. And no the falling out a building one still doesn't count the whole point of the shield is to absorb all force that hits it hence why Thor's hammer done nothing. He landed on the shield, it took all the impact, just as it did when they fell out that car. Grenade launcher thing makes no sense compared to every other time the shield has been hit I mean come on Thor's hammer blow didn't even do that... But the distance launched and how he survived it is decent. Still not comparable to Blade though. Edited by Steve, Feb 13 2015, 03:35 AM.
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Wolf	Feb 13 2015, 03:35 AM Post #25
Shadow Realm > Posts: 5,538 Group: Street Fighter Member #6,410 Joined: June 27, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country South Africa Favourite Anime Berserk What Browser do you use? 18+ Favourite Manga Berserk	My man Wesley takes this one. It would be an interesting sword vs shield battle but, Blade was cuttin through foos with mad vampire kung fu. Cap only knows how to block somewhat well and throw his shield. I feel like Blade would dodge that, then slice and dice that sucka.
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+ Havoc_Wreaker	Feb 13 2015, 03:43 AM Post #26
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	steve its still on you to prove that the bike was fake ....no matter what theories you bring up its proof we need... sigh steve where is it said that his shield takes all the force? no matter how you slice it rodgers is taking damage from everything that has significant force. either give me answers to these questions, or you're wrong, simple enough man like i said blades feat pale to caps in the durability department, getting thrown into a part of a pillar and going of one floor of a building is nothing lmao, taking a grenade launchers force(albeit reduced) and jumping out of a building, being still be able to fight even when cut or tased, cap has no quit in him



Southern Gothic	Feb 13 2015, 04:01 AM Post #27
Dilly Dilly Posts: 1,248 Group: Donator Member #12,015 Joined: January 23, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball GT, Wicked City, Akira Favourite Manga Jaco the Galactic Patrolman	Lifting that motorcycle along with the ladies should be within Cap's abilities, even at a maximum. There is no reason to assume that the movie would show us that with the intended purpose of it being fake, especially since it provided no further indication towards that idea. We, the audience, are suppose to assume it's Cap all on his own. Also, someone mentioned Cap being tazed. In both Blade and Blade II, he was taken down by an equal number of men using stun guns while Cap was able to shrug it off. Thats not a deal breaker but it is worth noting.



DSTREET45	Feb 13 2015, 09:19 AM Post #28
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	Yondaime Feb 13 2015, 03:22 AM i dont see how blades durability is as good as caps, in the video he fell off like a floor of the building and it cracked because it was likely tiles, but there was some extra damage so not a bad feat I used it was mostly due to the damage done. When did Cap take a hit that caused surrounding damage that large enough to leave a crater in the floor (Drake is kneeling on the bottom right pic, not standing, still impressive though)? The rubble is about knee high. Spoiler: click to toggle You'd need some serious amount of force to do that amount of damage. Quote: on the other hand cap jumped out of a building after being tased multiple times and cracked some of the concrete cap fell from a much high distance and his lower half of his body took all the force while his upper half was reduced cause he landed on the shield, cap also took a grenade launcher that hit his shield and went flying off the highway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Avymog_CEQ Most of the total force went to the shield. If Cap's lower body was durable to withstand that force completely, the shield wouldn't been necessary. Even if it's legit it only pertains to his lower body. His upper body is still fair game. In Blade 3, Blade jumped off a 3-5 story window in the police precinct and landed on his feet with no problems. Blade also gets scaled from weaker vampires, like Quinn, who jumped off a hospital window several stories high and crashed into (not onto) an ambulance. He was perfectly fine despite being weakened by taking a beating from Blade, being burned alive, and having his hand cut off prior to that feat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbZxfF2rG4c#t=33 Blade also jumped from a building to a lower building (2-3 floors difference in height) across the street without problems: Spoiler: click to toggle Quote: also cap has took multiple hits from winter soldier who has superhuman strength, not even caps shield could even destroy or dent the arm, when he was slicing EVERYTHING with it in avengers and cap 1 and 2 That just means that the arm was hard enough to take the hit. It doesn't have superior striking feats to any big bad Blade had faced in his movies or even Blade himself. And Blade was taking hits from actual superhumans just like Cap. Guys were downright launching each other through metal doors,busting up floors etc. Quote: Also, someone mentioned Cap being tazed. In both Blade and Blade II, he was taken down by an equal number of men using stun guns while Cap was able to shrug it off. Thats not a deal breaker but it is worth noting. Let's compare the effects of the tasers: Spoiler: click to toggle WS: One goon gets tased once, he's still able to get up (Cap had to knock him out) B2: Three goons get tased once and are down for the count. Hell the last one had sparks flying out of his helmet. I think the tasers in Blade 2 had more power. Feel free to prove me wrong though.



+ Pyrus	Feb 13 2015, 09:43 AM Post #29
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	The tasers in Blade 2 definitely appear to have more voltage, but body armor should be taken into consideration as well, though that's really tricky.
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Southern Gothic	Feb 13 2015, 09:54 AM Post #30
Dilly Dilly Posts: 1,248 Group: Donator Member #12,015 Joined: January 23, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball GT, Wicked City, Akira Favourite Manga Jaco the Galactic Patrolman	The Blade II tazers do appear more deadly. However I don't think that should negate what we saw happen in the original movie.



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