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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Feb 7 2015, 07:25 PM Post #1 |
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The winner is: Spoiler: click to toggle I honestly don't know gaara well enough since I haven't seen most of shippuden. So what's your guys opinion on this? Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Feb 7 2015, 07:25 PM.
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Feb 8 2015, 01:20 AM Post #16 |
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I know he was a big deal at one time, but I haven't kept up with Shippuden so I don't know how high he is in the Naruto tier list. |
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| + Steve | Feb 8 2015, 02:06 AM Post #17 |
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This fight is pretty BS so far... Why does Gaara need time to do anything? He done that in Part I to release Shukaku which he appears to not have(if he did then he'd totally own) How would that seismic sense detect attacks through the air? Nothing about how that was explained suggested that would work, unless they were connected to Gaara and thus the ground. Nor at the end of the video, she's blind it's clearly going to be the sound that lets her "see" things in the air and there isn't much reason Gaara's sand would be making much noise. I also call BS on Toph being able to control his sand. She could maybe bend her way out of being encased in it but not freely control it their control should cancel each other out. Also I love how at the end Gaara's sand shield just goes MIA what's that all about? Blatant favouritsm... All Gaara would have to do is what he did to Kimmimaro, suck her down in to the ground until the pressure crushes her. There's not much she could do in a massive whirlpool of sinking sand she'd have to concentrate all efforts on not choking to death on it. This is why I stopped watching Death Battle. |
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| lazerbem | Feb 8 2015, 02:34 AM Post #18 |
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You missed the part where Toph can apparently sense earth in the air as well, according to supplementary materials. Gaara's sand also has gold dust in it, meaning Toph has more to bend. From what I see, Gaara losing isn't a big deal. It was just a bad opponent for him |
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| + Steve | Feb 8 2015, 03:34 AM Post #19 |
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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But it said she senses attacks as they are launched so she'd know when someone is throwing something at her. Meaning there's no way she could sense sand that's independently manipulated and can go in any direction, moreover can just be in a big wall heading towards her. Gold dust wouldn't really do anything for either party really. And there's just no way she could beat Gaara's hax sand clone technique he done it in the blink of an eye against an opponent that was totally blitzing him, fast enough that only a Sharingan could see it happening. Plus he can also litter the area with sand to have his own form of sensing so she'd never get him from behind like that. How could she tank an attack from every direction? A large scale attack like morphing the whole terrain and dropping it on her for instance. |
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| FutureProtagonist | Feb 8 2015, 07:10 PM Post #20 |
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Gaara is one of the stronger Naruto characters. The second option is the right one. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Feb 8 2015, 08:52 PM Post #21 |
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Toph can simply sense Earth, whether it be on the ground or in the air. It's essentially a sign of how in tune with the element she is. Her ear has no bearing on how she feels the Earth around her as simply hearing it wouldn't allow her to accurately redirect and pinpoint something she can't see. I honestly don't see how Toph controlling Gaara's sand is BS. Elemental control isn't limited by a finite amount inner energy like Gaara's ability to control his own sand is. Honestly, Gaara's absolute defense really wouldn't help him as Toph would simply be able to pull it apart with her Earth Bending. Gaara's strength is also his weakness in this case, which is why Toph has the advantage. He could attempt to bury or crush her, and she'd simply walk away unscathed because her ability manipulate the earth with absolute precision. Gaara's only real chance of success would be to apply a finishing blow before she could react. Problem is, Toph has shown the ability to process and react to movement almost instantly. The fight is essentially decided when one tires, and since Toph's control over the element isn't limited by her inner energy, she'd outlast him, if she didn't end it before then. |
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| + Steve | Feb 9 2015, 12:20 AM Post #22 |
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With direct contact she could bend his sand yeah but not like take control over the whole cloud of sand as people seem to suggest, kind of ridiculous chakra is an immensely powerful force and his sand shield is formed from a mothers unconditional love. I still don't see how she could handle being sucked in to the ground Gaara can just make her fall down hundreds of feet and envelop her in sand she'd have to focus on fighting it off near constantly while he can just float there calmly. The further down he drags her the more the pressure would affect her nothing about her power suggests she could negate that in any way. Even if she some how could she needs air to breath so she's dead either way. Reacting to attacks instantly is debatable without any speed feats, is she faster than sound? Because Gaara should be he's not the fastest character but he's still above sound which is low tier in Naruto and his sand is faster. Also how could she precisely control a constantly moving whirlpool of sand powerful enough to grind up the hardest minerals? She can't focus on that and attack someone at a distance, while she would be hard for Gaara to kill he's even harder for her to kill. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Feb 9 2015, 12:24 AM Post #23 |
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If you don't see how Toph could handle that stuff, I'd suggest watching Avatar the Last Airbender. |
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| lazerbem | Feb 9 2015, 01:02 AM Post #24 |
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If Gaara is super sonic, how is Toph going to do anything though? Even Aang has gotten clipped by arrows |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Feb 9 2015, 01:23 AM Post #25 |
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He's also dodged lightning before. |
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| lazerbem | Feb 9 2015, 01:33 AM Post #26 |
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You mean the lightning that by all accounts doesn't work like real lightning and isn't anywhere near as fast? Seriously, even Sokka has dodged fireballs from Azula. Yes, I know Azula isn't Toph, my point is that I see no reason to give the Benders hyper sonic reactions or even superhuman beyond say...Batman |
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| Dbzk1999 | Feb 9 2015, 02:46 AM Post #27 |
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For those saying "oh he has gold dust in it" it's never stated that he used it as standard gear (or even kept it) neither has she shown she can manipulate such tiny amounts of metal For those saying "oh she turns his sand against him" what's stopping gaara from just doing the same? Heck, he's shown better feats with his sand manipulation than toph has with her earth manipulation. Next, toph is limited in sand bending, she basically only has two feats with sandbending and both are piss poor compared to gaara's Toph hasn't shown reactionary feats to suggest she can react to speeds faster than sound (or even being to fast for the human eye to see) Besides bending, avatar verse characters have human stats (with maybe some exceptions) Edited by Dbzk1999, Feb 9 2015, 02:48 AM.
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| DSTREET45 | Feb 9 2015, 07:02 AM Post #28 |
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Isn't Gaara too fast for her? I'm not an expert on Naruto but speedscaling in Part 1 alone should be way above A:TLA verse who are more like well trained humans stats-wise. And lightning fired from benders aren't as fast as natural lightning. Hell I doubt it's faster than regular fireballs which everybody and their mother had dodged at one point. |
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| + supersaqer | Feb 9 2015, 09:02 AM Post #29 |
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More like the exact opposite. CS1 Sasuke dodged a sonic blast. We know that he's slower than Gated Lee, but the thing is, Chuunin Exams Gaara's automatic sand couldn't react to Gated Lee. So we don't really know how fast his sand, or his automatic one. The normal sand is slower than sound, but the automated one should be close to that speed. We know later on that Gaara improved drastically since the Chuunin Exams, and he even improved greatly after it, as a Kazekage. There's no way Toph can do anything to be honest. |
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| + Pointer | Feb 9 2015, 09:44 AM Post #30 |
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if toph yould somehow sandbend...Gaara is finished. |
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