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Batman vs. Captain America; Movie Versions
Topic Started: Feb 5 2015, 09:03 PM (1,347 Views)
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Dark Knight's Batman vs. Winter Soldier's Captain America.

-- No shield
-- Batman can use gadgets only if Captain America would win otherwise via super strength

Who wins the melee fight?
Edited by SuperSaiyan1993, Feb 5 2015, 09:03 PM.
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Yondaime
Feb 8 2015, 12:18 AM
big a*** shield is what
He doesn't have his shield here :p

Even if he did there's no way he can survive Batman carpet bombing the ground beneath him the shield isn't big enough to block that much.

Movie Cap is pretty crap when he doesn't have his shield really Winter Soldier totally wrecked him and he's just a standard human with a metal arm, even without using his arm he was kicking Cap's a*** most of the time hand to hand.


I don't think he has the physical strength to wreck Batman that much:


Look how many hits Batman takes from a dude that can smash a stone pillar and not break his hand. There's no way Cap is stronger than that hand to hand he only really seems impossibly good at jumping around.
Be it his own strength or his armour if Batman can handle so many hits from Bane then Cap can't do much to him, not fast anyway.

During their fight he should be able to slice him up with those forearm blades too.


If Batman is allowed to kill then it's a definite win if not then it's like 60/40 on Batman's side imo, he has a lot more to offer in combat from various ranges.
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cap is faster hes gonna react quicker, batman is gonna have a hard time hitting him, its not a matter of taking hits, bats it just slow, hes gonna land a few hits, but cap is gonna work him around
obvi bat was gonna own bane at the end, but he was getting owned in their first round when bane broke his back though
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Let me put it like this

Bane without weakness=Captain America. Bane without weakness>Batman. Captain America>Batman

I seriously see Bane as equaling Cap's strength and being much slower
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Yondaime
Feb 8 2015, 01:57 AM
cap is faster hes gonna react quicker, batman is gonna have a hard time hitting him, its not a matter of taking hits, bats it just slow, hes gonna land a few hits, but cap is gonna work him around
obvi bat was gonna own bane at the end, but he was getting owned in their first round when bane broke his back though
Then how come multiple non enhanced humans have took him on and held their own? His main strengths in the movies are his seemingly infinite stamina and acrobatics. Even though he's quite clearly not your standard peak human alleged peak human's mess him up through superior technique Cap's reaction speeds don't seem to be all that.


Batman is also supposed to be peak human he's just limited by his armour but that also gives him damn good protection, as I said before he fell out a building on to a car and was fine can't see how Cap would do much to him other than through an extended fight and with an extended fight he has to deal with all Batman's weaponry.


Cap is a pretty s***ty fighter really he's dumb as heck if it weren't for plot he'd have died in his first movie as soon as he's fighting dudes with guns or in the first movie, disintegrating laser guns he just runs at them and they neglect to shoot him whereas Batman knows how to use cover, darkness and has far better mobility with grappling and gliding if this takes place at night he certainly wins.
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Cap is a better fighter than Batman and it's not even debatable

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Feb 8 2015, 03:53 AM
Cap is a better fighter than Batman and it's not even debatable

Yes it is.

Comics maybe but not movies Cap is a fairly crap fighter any time he's met with a well trained fighter they put up a good fight. He's far too reliant on his shield and plot armour.

Like can you even count how many times he blocks bullets with his shield? In situations where everyone literally just shoots the shield like it's a magnet...not his legs or that motorbike or anything that stick out. Batman has no greater training than the League of Shadow members but he wrecks all but a couple easily because he's actually skilled.

As Tony so elegantly put it "the only thing special about you came out of a bottle"

When it comes to combat, yes yes yes(and also by whatever process made the shield)
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steve the whole bullets and laser is a movie thing ..... they were in ww 2 what in the f*** did you expect man common, and in cap 2 it was a similar situation its the way the movie was not the heros fault

also your downplaying too many of his feats
he jumped off a building in cap2, and walked away much easier/faster than batman did off his building jump, so near durability and cap doesn't even have armor
cap beat batroc in h2h, and batroc himself is a master in martial arts and is peak human
took multiple hits from winter soldier who has superhuman strength with his arms and reacts faster as well
in cap 1 where he chases down a car

cap is better allround even without shield, batman has gadgets which would help but unless its darkness its game over

also dont get your point about tony, not like he himself has any special abilities dudes a f***er noone likes him, and one of the reason cap dies in the comics


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Who puts up a good fight to cap that wouldn't beat Batman to the ground?

The fact that you're quoting iron man tells me you didn't pay attention to the first Cap movie

There was plenty special about Steve before his rebirth more than Tony for damn sure.

He doesn't need his sheild look what he did to Baltroc in winter soldier

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Feb 8 2015, 08:56 AM
steve the whole bullets and laser is a movie thing ..... they were in ww 2 what in the f*** did you expect man common, and in cap 2 it was a similar situation its the way the movie was not the heros fault

also your downplaying too many of his feats
he jumped off a building in cap2, and walked away much easier/faster than batman did off his building jump, so near durability and cap doesn't even have armor
cap beat batroc in h2h, and batroc himself is a master in martial arts and is peak human
took multiple hits from winter soldier who has superhuman strength with his arms and reacts faster as well
in cap 1 where he chases down a car

cap is better allround even without shield, batman has gadgets which would help but unless its darkness its game over

also dont get your point about tony, not like he himself has any special abilities dudes a f***er noone likes him, and one of the reason cap dies in the comics


For soldiers to shoot at their target instead of deciding to engage him hand to hand when they have guns that turn people in to dust?

I know it's stupid movie logic but it's also movie Cap's logic to just run at an army of dudes with laser guns with his tiny shield, he only survives because it's a movie.
But Batman would never do something that idiotic in any of the movies he's a talented strategist, movie Cap is an oaf.

He comes away from that fine because of the shield it stops basically all forces affecting it it even took a hit from Thor that leveled the area remember? Were it not for his shield Cap would be useless in the movies replay any scene he's using it and take the shield away he dies or very nearly.
And as far as I can tell Batman fell from a greater height and was holding a person so he had that extra weight smash on to him.
Also in most of that fight Batroc has the upper hand even though Cap has the shield dude would have already burnt away a lot of his stamina and been in pain from that so Cap wins.

What's special about Tony is his intelligence he meant that there's nothing remarkable about Cap besides what the serum gave him.
Which is kinda true really without it all he has is...he's nice?
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Movie Batman is a sucky strategist, see him getting duped by Catwoman and receiving an asskicking
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I like Baleman better, but Rogers showed superior feats. He'd outpace Batman with ease, and land stronger blows. Batman has higher skill, though.

Batman wouldn't get put down right away, but he wouldn't last with Cap's stamina, speed, and power advantages.
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Feb 8 2015, 03:28 PM
Movie Batman is a sucky strategist, see him getting duped by Catwoman and receiving an asskicking
But also see him taking down groups of armed men without killing any of them or getting shot even though he actually gets shot at unlike Cap who only gets shot a couple of times because people realize the shield isn't a target.

Batman's armour should deal with Cap's strength just fine the stamina is an issue for Batman but he can escape and recuperate fairly easily not much Cap could do if Batman grapples up a building. He'd have to scale the building while having bombs and blades thrown at him and be on lower ground(you all saw Revenge of the Sith)

Watch the movies again whenever Cap doesn't have access to his shield most of the time he gets his a*** kicked. Batman on the other hand is actually hindered by his suit it's only good for stealth and defence otherwise it ruins his mobility.
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Once again who put up a fight to Cap that wouldn't beat Batman?
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Batman's suit may hinder mobility like any set of clothing would, but the one in Dark Knight was modified to increase it much further than the previous suit allowed.
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Feb 8 2015, 06:48 PM
Batman's suit may hinder mobility like any set of clothing would, but the one in Dark Knight was modified to increase it much further than the previous suit allowed.
It still hinders him all the suits did except maybe that first one with the balaclava.

It's a heavy stab proof hunk of whatever it is he carries around constantly.

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Once again who put up a fight to Cap that wouldn't beat Batman?


Who put up a fight against Cap that wouldn't win without him having his shield? In hand to hand he sucks and he has nothing else besides that and the shield Batman has so many more options.
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