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Freeza (100%) v Dark Phoenix (X-Men)
Topic Started: Feb 4 2015, 12:45 AM (512 Views)
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I have no idea why this occured to me except for the fact that I love both characters. Wasn't going to post this until I realized both can survive in space and that made it interesting to me. So the integrity of planets is not an issue.

So who wins? Dark Phoenix can survive the sun, which I see as an advantage. Freeza I believe holds the greater physical strength.

Edit: Freeza can call upon the Ginyu Corps for help.
Edited by Southern Gothic, Feb 4 2015, 02:04 AM.
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From what I'm seeing here Dark Phoenix can cut people off from their power, can manipulate matter with artistic mastery, Can eat suns and the like, held her own against Galactus, Galactus has trouble creating an avatar of her because of her immense power, Is an active psychic unlike Freeza capable of mind-breaking foes and casting illusions on a cosmic scale. Has crossed from Earth to another Galaxy in a few seconds, a being with only a 1/3rd of the Phoenix Force was capable of recreating herself (Emma Frost). Dark Phoenix has the entire damn thing at her disposal. The only thing that killed her was a shiar or kree gun/cannon, but, we find out it's because she willed herself to die. She also has multiple forcefields protecting her and the like and is capable of turning simple things such as a moon into a planet or into a sun. Weaker versions of Phoenix have been capable of reversing time and the like, the worst part is that Phoenix only needs a host body to unlock the true power, it can continue fighting without a host, there's alot more too. More than I care to list. Freeza's going to need alot to even hope of scratching her, from what I'm seeing here, Not even most of the Justice League in their most powerful (single) universal levels can take her on even as a team.
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Feb 4 2015, 01:10 AM
From what I'm seeing here Dark Phoenix can cut people off from their power, can manipulate matter with artistic mastery, Can eat suns and the like, held her own against Galactus, Galactus has trouble creating an avatar of her because of her immense power, Is an active psychic unlike Freeza capable of mind-breaking foes and casting illusions on a cosmic scale. Has crossed from Earth to another Galaxy in a few seconds, a being with only a 1/3rd of the Phoenix Force was capable of recreating herself (Emma Frost). Dark Phoenix has the entire damn thing at her disposal. The only thing that killed her was a shiar or kree gun/cannon, but, we find out it's because she willed herself to die. She also has multiple forcefields protecting her and the like and is capable of turning simple things such as a moon into a planet or into a sun. Weaker versions of Phoenix have been capable of reversing time and the like, the worst part is that Phoenix only needs a host body to unlock the true power, it can continue fighting without a host, there's alot more too. More than I care to list. Freeza's going to need alot to even hope of scratching her, from what I'm seeing here, Not even most of the Justice League in their most powerful (single) universal levels can take her on even as a team.
Awesome fact checking! Some of that occured to me, but then I thought maybe I was over estimating her powers. The one thing that kept me from seeing this as one sided was whether or not her Psychic powers worked on non humans, though it seems a mute point. Poor Freeza, hopefully he gets in a lucky Kienzan shot.
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Feb 4 2015, 01:25 AM
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Feb 4 2015, 01:10 AM
From what I'm seeing here Dark Phoenix can cut people off from their power, can manipulate matter with artistic mastery, Can eat suns and the like, held her own against Galactus, Galactus has trouble creating an avatar of her because of her immense power, Is an active psychic unlike Freeza capable of mind-breaking foes and casting illusions on a cosmic scale. Has crossed from Earth to another Galaxy in a few seconds, a being with only a 1/3rd of the Phoenix Force was capable of recreating herself (Emma Frost). Dark Phoenix has the entire damn thing at her disposal. The only thing that killed her was a shiar or kree gun/cannon, but, we find out it's because she willed herself to die. She also has multiple forcefields protecting her and the like and is capable of turning simple things such as a moon into a planet or into a sun. Weaker versions of Phoenix have been capable of reversing time and the like, the worst part is that Phoenix only needs a host body to unlock the true power, it can continue fighting without a host, there's alot more too. More than I care to list. Freeza's going to need alot to even hope of scratching her, from what I'm seeing here, Not even most of the Justice League in their most powerful (single) universal levels can take her on even as a team.
Awesome fact checking! Some of that occured to me, but then I thought maybe I was over estimating her powers. The one thing that kept me from seeing this as one sided was whether or not her Psychic powers worked on non humans, though it seems a mute point. Poor Freeza, hopefully he gets in a lucky Kienzan shot.
Since morals aren't off, it's not entirely impossible that Freeza couldn't attempt to appeal to Phoenix's host in an attempt to get jean Gray to come out strong and prevent her from killing him off like a weakling; However, where Freeza will acquire this knowledge no one knows.
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From what I've heard of the Dark Phoneix, she is supposed to be one of the most powerful of all super beings. Leon presented many of the pertinent facts. Frieza gets stomped.
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Dark Phoenix is the Pharoah and Freeza is the victim
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Squall's point about Freeza pleading for his life brings up the one small advantage Freeza might have. Dark Phoenix was for a time controlled by the Hellfire Club and is prone to mental breakdowns. That does bring into question her mental stability. Should one of these occure in tne fight, I don't see Freeza as the type to wait for her to recover. Attacking at the right moment, should it even occure, would be the only, however slight, chance Freeza would have.

I'm interested to see if the new movie will change this outcome or not.

For now, I am going to edit this to include the Ginyu Corps. Not that it would sway this battle very much, but considering Dark Phoenix's range of abilities, this might give Freeza some more to work with, including time stopping, body swapping, and of course, let's not forget, the absolute fastest man in the universe ;)
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Unfortunately, all of those Phoenix can do even better than them. Ginyu's Body Swap wouldn't get past the first forcefield, let alone the other ones. It's like delaying the inevitable unfortunately. Guldo can stop time, but even with that going on he's trying to freeze the embodiment of life and death. It's an unholy matrimony of stomp and horror I don't even want to see this even attempted to be put in a media format, even writing.
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Didn't Dark Phoenix hold the universe at some point? I know it was some incarnation of Phoenix who did that

Anyway, the Ginyu Force are the appetizer for Freeza being the equivalent of light salad
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Frieza don't have a chance frankly. He's too underpowered buddy.
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Isn't Dark Phoenix that chick who almost bested the big guy who eats planets and could most likely destroy the whole Universe?

Yeah, Freeza is DOOMED here.
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Even Phoenix from The Last Stand would pull it off she can dismantle anything and anyone at an atomic level and do with them whatever she sees fit.

Like how Magneto in X2 used that liquid iron to make solid shapes, she can do that with anything that isn't some type of God/Mutant with specific powers to resist that.
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