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SSJ4 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs SSJ2 Kid Gohan
Topic Started: Jan 5 2015, 03:26 PM (1,148 Views)
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Jan 5 2015, 08:51 PM
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Jan 5 2015, 08:36 PM
SSJ3 is your own power though, lol. It's not Kaioken, it doesn't only work as a multiplier. It's an extension of your own abilities.
It's a transformation which multiplies the Base power, i don't see how this has a connection with the hidden potential :) .
In that case, why wasn't Gohan able to transform into a Super Saiyan for extra power? If it has nothing to do with a person's potential, then he should be able to, right?
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i thought in order to transform into a Super Saiyan you need to be pure of heart and right use of the emotions, i don't recall for a potential implication. My memory is foggy about all this though :p
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The way I see it, the Super Saiyan transformations bring out more and more of a Saiyan's dormant power that they can't normally access.
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You guys are correct.

I concede.
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This just means that Vegeta's potential doesn't include Super Saiyan 3 because he's not capable of it.

Basically Vegeta sucks. Something he admitted himself.

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I Dont Follow Potential And Even So,Is Like Saying SSJ3 Pre-Majin Vegeta > SSJ4 Pre-Majin Vegeta,So SSJ4 Vegeta Would Do horrible.HORRIBLE Things To The Poor Kid
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Jan 5 2015, 11:45 PM
I Dont Follow Potential And Even So,Is Like Saying SSJ3 Pre-Majin Vegeta > SSJ4 Pre-Majin Vegeta,So SSJ4 Vegeta Would Do horrible.HORRIBLE Things To The Poor Kid
You're making up what you want the form to be?
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Jan 5 2015, 10:06 PM
This just means that Vegeta's potential doesn't include Super Saiyan 3 because he's not capable of it.

Basically Vegeta sucks. Something he admitted himself.

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I need something clear okay, is there evidence that Vegeta and Goku shared memories as Vegito?

OT: To me in Z, Super Saiyan 3 was your maxed abilities (banning special rituals). Super Saiyan 4 brings out your dormant power that you're able to use in a adept way without a strain, or a very minimal one.

That said if you're including either GT or BoGs, Vegeta will literally do what Super Perfect-Cell did only Gohan won't survive.
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SSJ3 is more or less the saiyans max potential on their own, SSJ4 is the Saiyan's max potential plus the Oozaru from.

SSJ4 will always be stronger than SSJ3 because once is drawing from just the saiyans's max power while the other is drawing from the saiyan's entire power which is both their max potential plus the power the tail gives which includes the Oozaru's form.
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Jan 6 2015, 02:16 AM
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Jan 5 2015, 10:06 PM
This just means that Vegeta's potential doesn't include Super Saiyan 3 because he's not capable of it.

Basically Vegeta sucks. Something he admitted himself.

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I need something clear okay, is there evidence that Vegeta and Goku shared memories as Vegito?

OT: To me in Z, Super Saiyan 3 was your maxed abilities (banning special rituals). Super Saiyan 4 brings out your dormant power that you're able to use in a adept way without a strain, or a very minimal one.

That said if you're including either GT or BoGs, Vegeta will literally do what Super Perfect-Cell did only Gohan won't survive.
Both remembered what it was like to be merged, so I don't know why they wouldn't remember what they did as Vegetto.
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Jan 5 2015, 10:06 PM
This just means that Vegeta's potential doesn't include Super Saiyan 3 because he's not capable of it.

Basically Vegeta sucks. Something he admitted himself.

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I need something clear okay, is there evidence that Vegeta and Goku shared memories as Vegito?

OT: To me in Z, Super Saiyan 3 was your maxed abilities (banning special rituals). Super Saiyan 4 brings out your dormant power that you're able to use in a adept way without a strain, or a very minimal one.

That said if you're including either GT or BoGs, Vegeta will literally do what Super Perfect-Cell did only Gohan won't survive.
Both remembered what it was like to be merged, so I don't know why they wouldn't remember what they did as Vegetto.
This may not seem accurate, but I believe Kid Buu could possibly be quite stronger than the previous Buu(s) now. If they have indeed shared memories, then Vegeta has witnessed that that Super Buu, Buutenks, Buuhan had constantly increased his strength.

And this could also go into Prince's theory as well.

Then there's that little quote that Vegeta said Goku was even stronger than he initially thought. So he have had to sense him @ Fat Buu or Buutenks.
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Jan 6 2015, 06:48 PM
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Jan 5 2015, 10:06 PM
This just means that Vegeta's potential doesn't include Super Saiyan 3 because he's not capable of it.

Basically Vegeta sucks. Something he admitted himself.

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I need something clear okay, is there evidence that Vegeta and Goku shared memories as Vegito?

OT: To me in Z, Super Saiyan 3 was your maxed abilities (banning special rituals). Super Saiyan 4 brings out your dormant power that you're able to use in a adept way without a strain, or a very minimal one.

That said if you're including either GT or BoGs, Vegeta will literally do what Super Perfect-Cell did only Gohan won't survive.
Both remembered what it was like to be merged, so I don't know why they wouldn't remember what they did as Vegetto.
This may not seem accurate, but I believe Kid Buu could possibly be quite stronger than the previous Buu(s) now. If they have indeed shared memories, then Vegeta has witnessed that that Super Buu, Buutenks, Buuhan had constantly increased his strength.

And this could also go into Prince's theory as well.

Then there's that little quote that Vegeta said Goku was even stronger than he initially thought. So he have had to sense him @ Fat Buu or Buutenks.
We're still having a debate about the second issue, sort of. I don't believe Vegeta sensed Goku because he was a spiritless little cloud up until shortly before Gohan-Boo debuted, yet he saw Fusion but was shocked to learn Bulma and Trunks had been absorbed by Boo, plus he wanted to see Super Saiyan 3 for himself and couldn't "imagine" how strong it was...which all heavily points to him not having sensed the form before, or if he did, the signal (so to speak) wasn't strong enough to really make an impression other than it being stronger than Super Saiyan 2.
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Maybe Yemma gave him a body when Gohan was absorbed.
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He had to have. That's the first time we saw Vegeta after his self-destruction, and it's implied by Enma's statement (if not stated outright) that he'd just gotten his new body.
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