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3 FP 2nd Form Friezas vs 3rd Form Frieza
Topic Started: Jan 4 2015, 08:16 PM (2,656 Views)
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Jan 5 2015, 10:17 PM
@Clearin: the fact that if he merged with Kami he could supposedly defeat Freeza (1st form), and the Elder Namek says he lost half of his power by splitting.
Eh, that's fair enough. I don't know if Kamiccolo being *2 Piccolo actually works when you put it into practice in the Cell saga, but that's to work out for another day
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Jan 5 2015, 10:17 PM
Sensing hidden power is common in Z.

@Clearin: the fact that if he merged with Kami he could supposedly defeat Freeza (1st form), and the Elder Namek says he lost half of his power by splitting.
I doubt Piccolo could sense the true power of someone he hadn't even seen. The most he knew about Freeza at that point was that he was enough to make 18k Vegeta look like Raditz, and then he felt Freeza's power and his fear boner grew ten sizes.
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Wouldn't Piccolo have sensed Freeza's full power anyway? It's not like Freeza would be suppression himself when he's charging towards the gang with the Dragon Balls, he'd be going as fast as he could, he was completely pissed.
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Jan 5 2015, 10:22 PM
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Jan 5 2015, 10:17 PM
Sensing hidden power is common in Z.

@Clearin: the fact that if he merged with Kami he could supposedly defeat Freeza (1st form), and the Elder Namek says he lost half of his power by splitting.
I doubt Piccolo could sense the true power of someone he hadn't even seen. The most he knew about Freeza at that point was that he was enough to make 18k Vegeta look like Raditz, and then he felt Freeza's power and his fear boner grew ten sizes.
I concede. Piccolo was 50k.
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Jan 5 2015, 10:17 PM
Sensing hidden power is common in Z.
Freeza's ki was already 'absurdly' large even before powering up.

Note that Piccolo doesn't say "That large ki became absurdly large." He says "that large ki has become even more absurdly large." Implying that the ki was already absurdly large to begin with.

Chapter: 294 (DBZ 100), P14.1
Context: as Freeza powers up
Piccolo: “That large ki has become even more absurdly large! Is this ‘Freeza’ finally starting to move?!”
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Jan 5 2015, 10:24 PM
Wouldn't Piccolo have sensed Freeza's full power anyway? It's not like Freeza would be suppression himself when he's charging towards the gang with the Dragon Balls, he'd be going as fast as he could, he was completely pissed.
What do you think he did before fighting Vegeta?
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Jan 5 2015, 10:24 PM
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Jan 5 2015, 10:22 PM
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Jan 5 2015, 10:17 PM
Sensing hidden power is common in Z.

@Clearin: the fact that if he merged with Kami he could supposedly defeat Freeza (1st form), and the Elder Namek says he lost half of his power by splitting.
I doubt Piccolo could sense the true power of someone he hadn't even seen. The most he knew about Freeza at that point was that he was enough to make 18k Vegeta look like Raditz, and then he felt Freeza's power and his fear boner grew ten sizes.
I concede. Piccolo was 50k.
You troll.
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Wait, I think we can around the whole Kami fusing with Piccolo = double power thing. It says the original Namkeians power was halved when he split, back then original Kamiccolo would have been like 400 PL, leaving Kami and King Piccolo at 200, then Piccolo trains on his own (and Kami might have got a bit stronger too) so that the fusion results doesn't necessarily have to be double the power again because the new powers are no longer 50/50 of the original.

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He pooped out a lot more power, but yeah, I agree with your theory on the original Namekian.
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Well if you guys really wAnt to get into it, Piccolo does indeed gain ~ 2x his power in the android arc. It lines up there, why shouldn't it here?
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Jan 5 2015, 10:49 PM
Well if you guys really wAnt to get into it, Piccolo does indeed gain ~ 2x his power in the android arc. It lines up there, why shouldn't it here?
I never thought about it, it just seems like a lot of characters he needs to jump over in just a x2 gap. He needs to get over:
SSj Trunks, SSj Goku, SSj Vegeta, #18 and then land around #17's power.
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Here are some arbitrary numbers for your viewing pleasure.

Piccolo post-merge: 100
Android #17: 95
Android #18: 85
Initial Cell: 78
SSJ Vegeta: 70
SSJ Goku: 66
SSJ Trunks: 63
Piccolo pre-merge: 50
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Jan 5 2015, 10:59 PM
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Jan 5 2015, 10:49 PM
Well if you guys really wAnt to get into it, Piccolo does indeed gain ~ 2x his power in the android arc. It lines up there, why shouldn't it here?
I never thought about it, it just seems like a lot of characters he needs to jump over in just a x2 gap. He needs to get over:
SSj Trunks, SSj Goku, SSj Vegeta, #18 and then land around #17's power.
The first three are pretty close together, though. Cell may even be close to the Supers as well.
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I Have a 1.48x Gap Between 2nd Form Freeza And 3rd Form Freeza,I Think 6 2nd Form Freezas Would Take This,But 3 Here Is Not Enough Imo
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