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3 FP 2nd Form Friezas vs 3rd Form Frieza
Topic Started: Jan 4 2015, 08:16 PM (2,661 Views)
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Piccolo was wrong, though. Freeza's speed was godly. If Piccolo couldn't keep up at all, then someone even weaker than him wouldn't be able to. That makes sense to me, though I'm not tossing you under the bus yet.
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Piccolo was wrong because he misjudged his speed and not his power. For whatever odd reason, Piccolo thought he would be faster than Freeza despite knowing that he was a hell of a lot weaker.

Dodoria couldn't keep up with Vegeta and Zarbon couldn't even land a hit on Vegeta. Yet supposedly they can beat him together.
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Jan 4 2015, 09:14 PM
Piccolo was wrong because he misjudged his speed and not his power. For whatever odd reason, Piccolo thought he would be faster than Freeza despite knowing that he was a hell of a lot weaker.

Dodoria couldn't keep up with Vegeta and Zarbon couldn't even land a hit on Vegeta. Yet supposedly they can beat him together.
Dodoria and Zarbon could arguably have had losses of shouki and yuuki, and they weren't good fighters to begin with.
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So they'd randomly go in with a clear mind and courage if they were together?
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Speed and power aren't linear. Piccolo, who trained at x10 gravity, probably thought he'd be faster than that alone.

Anyway I have 3rd form Freeza a lot more powerful, at least x2, than 2nd form, so he wins.
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Jan 4 2015, 09:23 PM
So they'd randomly go in with a clear mind and courage if they were together?
You wouldn't be more confident with a friend?
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Jan 4 2015, 09:39 PM
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Jan 4 2015, 09:23 PM
So they'd randomly go in with a clear mind and courage if they were together?
You wouldn't be more confident with a friend?
They didn't seem confident when Freeza was telling them to team up.
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More confident than on their own certainly.
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Not seeing any confidence here.

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If you'll recall, Jheese actually made a difference when Ginyu and Goku fought. Jheese and Goku miles apart; he just interfered at the exact opportune moment. I would reckon that Zarbon and Dodoria could manage to beat Vegeta; Zarbon's pretty quick and Dodoria has decent power.

Of course, Zarbon could just transform, so I don't really know why Freeza told them they'd have to team up in the first place.
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Seems like Zarbon's transformation hadn't been thought of by Toriyama at that time.

And that was a point I had been saving.

If Jeice at 40k can at least distract Goku, imagine what someone like Burst Goku @ Ginyu Force could do.

This translates back to this fight where 3rd Freeza could maybe take out one Freeza easily, but he'd be opening himself up to attacks from the other two.
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I think 3rd form Freeza is at least 2M at this point and his 2nd form was at least 1.5M
Maybe a team can win.
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Jan 4 2015, 09:57 PM
If you'll recall, Jheese actually made a difference when Ginyu and Goku fought. Jheese and Goku miles apart; he just interfered at the exact opportune moment. I would reckon that Zarbon and Dodoria could manage to beat Vegeta; Zarbon's pretty quick and Dodoria has decent power.

Of course, Zarbon could just transform, so I don't really know why Freeza told them they'd have to team up in the first place.
In that case Goku was fighting someone with a higher powerlevel than himself, though. If it was Goku vs Burter, then Jeice's distraction wouldn't have done much.
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If you'll recall, Jheese actually made a difference when Ginyu and Goku fought. Jheese and Goku miles apart; he just interfered at the exact opportune moment. I would reckon that Zarbon and Dodoria could manage to beat Vegeta; Zarbon's pretty quick and Dodoria has decent power.

Of course, Zarbon could just transform, so I don't really know why Freeza told them they'd have to team up in the first place.
In that case Goku was fighting someone with a higher powerlevel than himself, though. If it was Goku vs Burter, then Jeice's distraction wouldn't have done much.
While that's true, we've also seen that three inferior fighters (some heavily inferior) can take down one opponent. See First Form Freeza vs Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan.

Vegeta might be close to Freeza, but Gohan and Krillin are certainly not.
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Third form should win. He can pull a speed blitz and have his counterparts beaten down before they can react(he was doing it to Piccolo).

I think speed is being underestimated, third form is simply fast enough to move out of their sight and use a death beam from behind. He has nothing to fear.
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