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Master Mutiato vs 22nd Goku
Topic Started: Jan 3 2015, 07:17 PM (502 Views)
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Roshi [who I have moderately over Match Level Goku but still a good amount weaker than Serious Goku and Tenshinhan] implies that he was stronger in his prime, but states even Mutiato couldn't defeat Piccolo Daimao meaning Mutiato was most likely stronger than him.

10. Mutaito [#MAO#MUT]
Chapter: 135, P6.1
Kame-sennin: “Despite the cute name, [Piccolo] was an outrageously fearsome person…His strength was extremely overwhelming…[ ] He was an opponent we were utterly unable to oppose; not only my younger self or Tsuru-sennin, but even our master, Mutaito. ”


However, Piccolo Daimao acted like he never saw anyone in the world as strong as Goku


Chapter: 143, P6.3
Context: after Piccolo and Goku fight a bit, before Piccolo gets serious
Piccolo: “To think that there’d be someone in this world who could knock my back to the ground…I see…At that level, it’s no wonder my underlings couldn’t handle you…”


Although Goku most likely got a zenkai from Tambourine almost killing him. And im not sure if this statement is even implying Goku > Mutaito or him simply just being impressed by Goku's strength.

Who do you think wins?
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The first quote shows to me that Mutaito was above Goku and Tien's level back in 22nd budokai.
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Piccolo was at a completely different level during the earlier days. It can't be compared to the form Goku took down. Mutaito would completely destroy Goku, imo.
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Emmeth
Jan 4 2015, 12:36 PM
Piccolo was at a completely different level during the earlier days. It can't be compared to the form Goku took down. Mutaito would completely destroy Goku, imo.


Didn't Piccolo regain his power back when he wished for his youth?
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I always had that understanding. But perhaps he got stronger from acquiring the youngness to himself again. That doesn't have to be the exact amount of power he had when he was originally young. There's a lot to look at there.

End of the day Mutaito should break Goku.
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Jan 4 2015, 08:15 PM
Emmeth
Jan 4 2015, 12:36 PM
Piccolo was at a completely different level during the earlier days. It can't be compared to the form Goku took down. Mutaito would completely destroy Goku, imo.


Didn't Piccolo regain his power back when he wished for his youth?
Yeah, but I was talking about Old Piccolo. None of the elders in their youth or otherwise could take down Post-Water Goku.
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Yeah that's pretty obvious. I just got confused when you said the Piccolo Mutiato fought can't be compared to the one Goku took out.
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Yeah, I understand what you mean. My choice of words were poor.
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I think all three of them were above 22nd Goku. Kame-Sennin appears to be explaining why they're totally screwed; if Goku is stronger than any of them, he should have a chance of winning. Roshi uses that as an explanation as to why he doesn't.
Edited by FutureProtagonist, Jan 5 2015, 05:37 AM.
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