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Goku Saiyan Arc vs Suppressed Ginyu
Topic Started: Dec 30 2014, 08:16 AM (440 Views)
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Goku gets to use the following:



Goku has limited strain, but it's still there.

This is the Ginyu who had the warm up fight with Son.
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I have Ginyu's suppressed level at 75,000. Goku at 8,100

It's not a big gap. I doubt that Goku could pull off a victory before the strain catches up with him; Ginyu is a pretty decent fighter and wouldn't give up just because Goku was a bit ahead of him. He'd take some damage, but eventually Goku's Kaio-Ken would wear off and Ginyu would be able to take the win from there.
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What's your take on amping ki attacks while using Kaioken? Do you think the ki attack will stack on top of Kaioken, or do you think Kaioken is the maximum power available?
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I'd be willing to say that there is an amp, but it's reduced greatly. If it was the same (or even close), I'd think that (in that particular case) Freeza would have had to counter Goku's Kamehameha with his own amped attack or increase his power to avoid the damage. Instead he just casually blocked it with has hand; it did end up overpowering him (which suggests some kind of amp), but didn't do any real damage (suggesting that the amp was small).
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Fair enough, I share the same viewpoint.

If this is the case, Goku could easily be getting to that 90-100k range with a nicely timed Kamehameha. In my opinion, that's more than enough to cause a devastating injury to Ginyu, potentially even kill him.

Do you agree or disagree?
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Well, Vegeta took a pretty big Kamehameha and he still survived. He got off basically scot-free. If Ginyu's the same way, it's not going to help that much. It might end up just being a waste of energy; it would only be useful as a last-ditch attack.

Even if it hurts Ginyu badly, I reckon that Goku's Kaio-Ken is going to be gone after he shoots it off. Ginyu should be able to pull off the victory. I don't think he'd be completely immobilized.
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So basically this is 10x KK Saiyan Arc Goku vs Supressed Ginyu right? Goku would have the power advantage, but in no way am I seeing him winning this fight, the strain will overcome him before he can finish off Ginyu for good. And since SSJ asked I believe there's no amplification on top of Kaioken.
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