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Sasruto(EONS) Vs DB/DBZ/DBGT
Topic Started: Dec 29 2014, 09:29 AM (5,298 Views)
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How far can a potara fusion of Naruto and Sasuke get? Can the fusion take out Whis or SS4 Gogeta?
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Yondaime
Dec 29 2014, 06:24 PM
i agree some where cell games seems fine
prolly before that, wayyy before that actually
but speed makes them go farther then they should really
i wonder how fast goku was on namek, if only that speed feat was more reliable

like i said
snake way is 1 million kms, goku on his way back to earth
took roughly one day to complete it(confirmed by the official history of dbz), which is mach 34 which is past hypersonic speeds
and onto re-entry speeds, and if you really want

almost 0.004% of speed of light at the pl of 4000-8000 js
i wonder what 150 million would be? which is goku at freeza saga
But doesn't Snake Way also go in a snake-like pattern? Going a straight line through the middle vastly cuts down that distance just thought I'd point that out.

DBZ characters speed seems greater over distance really unlike people imagine here with combat speed is most likely travelling speed that is fastest, which makes sense really if you go out and run it takes a few seconds or more for you to be going full speed, same with anything that accelerates.
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yeah i didnt think of the twists and turns so there goes that number out the garbage for the most part
he prolly did fly over some of it, but he was running in one scene
umm, prolly didnt use full power either or kaio-ken to reserve some power for the upcoming fight
hmmmmm

http://postimg.org/image/w4f710daj/

still a long way to cover in one day so number shouldn't be too far off all things considered me thinks
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Yondaime
Dec 29 2014, 06:48 PM
yeah i didnt think of the twists and turns so there goes that number out the garbage for the most part
he prolly did fly over some of it, but he was running in one scene
umm, prolly didnt use full power either or kaio-ken to reserve some power for the upcoming fight
hmmmmm

http://postimg.org/image/w4f710daj/

still a long way to cover in one day so number shouldn't be too far off all things considered me thinks
Yeah, it's admittedly a huge distance to cover in that amount of time.
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yeah, and really this is goku from near the beginning of Z
let alone later parts
but i think most of us can agree sasruto would make it somewhere
from post freeza to cell games?
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Yondaime
Dec 29 2014, 06:55 PM
yeah, and really this is goku from near the beginning of Z
let alone later parts
but i think most of us can agree sasruto would make it somewhere
from post freeza to cell games?
That sounds good, yeah. I mean, it'll get to the point where Sasruto can't do anything to his opponent, even with Genjutsu, because they'll be too fast for him to be able to do it effectively.
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Dec 29 2014, 06:09 PM
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Dec 29 2014, 06:00 PM
So how exactly would cell games characters beat him? Sasruto is too fast for them right? They surpass him in strength and durability but how do they tag him? Would they eventually just level the battle field killing them?
How does the fusion surpass the Freeza saga in terms of physical strength? Goku's island feat against Freeza barely hurt him. And that's already hitting harder than anything in Naruto.

They win in the speed department but that's just about it.
No no no. Not what I meant. When I said "they" I was talking about cell games characters. The cell games characters definitely have him beat in physical attacks
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Dec 29 2014, 04:54 PM
He has IT but he needs to focus for it Sasruto can just teleport whenever, wherever.

And remember Sasruto has the Rinnegan so he can just absorb attacks too, it wouldn't be so simple as just one Ki blast, Soul Stealing also.

I wonder if clones could use those techniques too? Path's are body puppets so that's a bit different, maybe clones could steal souls too...
If they could all it takes is 1 touch from 1000 Sasruto's to beat anyone with a soul.
If you ever read naruto, rinnegan can only absorb chakara based attacks not ki (also one of the reasons why genjutsu only works in the naruto series).
Dbz has faced there share of dimension and time manipulators that easily can put kaguyas abilities to shame. I see them losing to raditz due to light speed reactions and from what i saw on the arc didnt kaguya get damaged by lightning blade a weaker variation of the real deal (corect me if im wrong havent seen the war arc in a while) if thats the case when db characters powerup they get hit by lightning bolts and laugh. How strong do you guys even see soruto anyway imo i still have them weaker than 8th gate gai and kaguya.
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well if you have ever read the dbzf other versus rules ki/chakra ect.. is all the same thing
and no if goku can't do snake way at light speed how in the hell did radditz ????
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Yondaime
Dec 29 2014, 08:15 PM
well if you have ever read the dbzf other versus rules ki/chakra ect.. is all the same thing
and no if goku can't do snake way at light speed how in the hell did radditz ????
Actully no it isnt, chakara is something that flows threw your cerebrual nervous system so when you get in a gen jutsu it attacks and manipulates ones chakara. Ki is like a mini sun in ones body, it dosent flow and is made up of spiritual power, courage and mind. There two diffrent power sources(you should know this) or are we bending the rules to give them a chance.
And if you propally read my comment i said he REACTS at light speed.
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no the reaactions are not light speed thats conjecture
and ur still not getting it ur breaking the rules of the forum
ki counts as chakra on this forum
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Steve
Dec 29 2014, 06:18 PM
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Dec 29 2014, 05:24 PM
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Anyway on strength, speed, technique and skill alone I'd say somewhere along the lines of second form Cell
See this is what I'm talking about though. Where do people get the idea that at that point dbz characters are too fast? I'm not saying they aren't or are I'm just asking
I don't mean that, by speed I mean they'd get to Second Form Cell because nobody could catch them, even if they could kill them fairly easily with a blast they wouldn't get a hit in.

Like how Minato is most impossible to beat in the series because almost nobody gets a hit in, even though a single full power punch from Ay would likely kill him.


Considering Genki comes from the planet I'd say it qualifies as essentially being Nature Energy, maybe in DB all characters are just born with some Nature Energy, essentially.


Before Second Form Cell I'd say the only person who could possibly beat Sasruto is Piccolo given that he's an alien and his mind is obviously going to be very different being 3 people but also 1.
Although Bijuu are vastly different from humans and Genjutsu works on them so it could be discussed either way.

There aren't many characters who could tank a Massive Amaterasu Bijuu Rasen(for rotating) Lightning Dama Arrow and even less who could dodge it at close range.
Even if they survive that singular hit they've got Amaterasu on them.

Not that surviving the hit is likely since as I've said a million times Bijuudama is extremely heavy if some characters struggle with their weight multiplied by 100-500 they're going to have a bad time with Bijuudama.
Yeah but like I keep saying, Goku has held up Ki as heavier than several times a planet. It won't crush him at all, as long as its an energy type attack.

Past Freeza saga the only way to win is to make them remove their guard via genjutsu.

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Yondaime
Dec 29 2014, 08:50 PM
no the reaactions are not light speed thats conjecture
and ur still not getting it ur breaking the rules of the forum
ki counts as chakra on this forum
Raditz reacted to gokus khh which is>>roshis khh which busted the moon in seconds. Raditz has light speed or near reaction.
Also i just looked at the other versus and no rule was of that was stated. Even if it was your living in a false reality that ki equals chakara which it isnt your just giving a weakverse an unfair advantage.
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Biobroly might have a point. Ki is the same energy pretty much as chakra isn't it? That goes along with the forum rules anyway. However it doesn't flow through the body the same way as chakra does in naruto so genjutsu shouldn't really work on them should it?
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why am i not surprised
look at rule 4
http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8373051/1/#new

so in the manga it said piccolos attack reached the moon in seconds right?
quit trolling ....

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Piccolos blast definitely reached the moon in under a minute. I think it's crazy to say it took longer. But the moon is not the same distance from earth as it is in real life
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