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| Old interview shows AT saying Kid Boo is the strongest - is this egit? | |
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| Nanho | Dec 28 2014, 04:22 AM Post #16 |
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We are talking the use of that word within the context of the manga;The villain doesn't become more dangerous with reduction in power.. |
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| FutureProtagonist | Dec 28 2014, 04:23 AM Post #17 |
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Now tell me why Goku insisted they not fuse when fighting a "stronger" form of Boo. |
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| EMIYA | Dec 28 2014, 04:23 AM Post #18 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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Its impossible to use the manga to support Kid Boo being stronger because the manga already tells you that Super Boo is stronger. I don't know how someone can look at lines like this:
and then have Goku not only fight Kid Boo directly but stated to be able to defeat him at full power and somehow have Kid Boo stronger than Super Boo? I mean it doesn't work, its impossible. It's literally an impossible contradiction. You can't get any clearer than this. I mean if you want to lower the gap so that its not so massive, I mean...fair enough point I guess. But don't try to claim that something that isn't true because the moment you say Kid Boo is stronger do you know what you need to do? You need to go up to those first statements I gave up there and change them otherwise you have a contradiction. But good freaking damn, its like trying to explain evolution or theory to a religious person and your trying to explain that its not about the monkeys its about the common ancestors and they go on about being 2.5x weaker or Goku holding back 50% of his power or just random stuff they pull out. |
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| IceHawk-181 | Dec 28 2014, 04:29 AM Post #19 |
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What an author intends, even retroactively, does not always make it into the actual publication. Determining legitimate canon sources becomes far more untenable when we get into discussions of whether or not ex post facto statements are grounds for overriding certain acceptable points. The moment we start twisting evidence to match these kinds of ideas we are done with rational debate and have entered into the the realm of individual head-canon/fanon. |
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| Gohan Boo | Dec 28 2014, 04:40 AM Post #20 |
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People, that is the interviewer saying that, not Akira Toriyama. It would mean Pure Boo>Gohan Boo and Initial Final Form Freeza>100% Freeza, which both blatantly contradict the manga. Edited by Gohan Boo, Dec 28 2014, 04:43 AM.
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| SSJ | Dec 28 2014, 04:44 AM Post #21 |
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Not real if they can't prove it. |
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| Nanho | Dec 28 2014, 05:24 AM Post #22 |
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1/it would be repetitively stupid for him to ask a third time. 2/It was made clear they underestimated pure buu. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 28 2014, 05:24 AM Post #23 |
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Like his latest interviews, if what he says blatantly contradicts the work he put out in his earlier years, something is awry. That doesn't include Ten being weaker than Krillin. |
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| FutureProtagonist | Dec 28 2014, 05:30 AM Post #24 |
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What? He specifically asked Vegeta not to fuse. Well, he didn't ask, he told Kibitoshin that they weren't going to. This indicates that he does not want Vegeta to fuse with him at all. That should be pretty obvious. It's the polar opposite of what he said before. Vegeta was the only one who underestimated Pure Boo. Boo's power didn't surprise Goku. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 28 2014, 06:17 AM Post #25 |
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![]() Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P12.6 Vegeta: “The truth is you were right [that I’d be killed by Boo]. That Boo is stronger than I imagined…And so are you, Kakarot…” Vegeta's line was an underestimation of Boo. Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P13.1-6 Vegeta: “Don’t hesitate for my sake, and finish him off! With that Super Saiyan 3, you should be able to completely wipe out Boo with your ki once you gather it with all your might…!” Goku: “Ye…yeah…I’ve been thinking of doing that as well since awhile back, but…I haven’t gotten the chance.” Vegeta: “Eh?” Goku: “If I want to wipe him out, I gotta gather ki for about one minute.” Vegeta: “One minute?!” Goku: “Dammnit~~~If it was with the Potara, I could have done it in one blast. …..Cheh~~~I guess I went and showed off too much. But I thought things would go a little better than this…!” Vegeta: “…S …So you weren’t thinking of me…” Goku's was an overestimation of his own ability. Only Vegeta underestimated Boo. |
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| Nanho | Dec 28 2014, 04:03 PM Post #26 |
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Seriously, if we ll just use our common sense and stop mindlessly reading statements pure buu > evil buu wouldnt be a problem...
Do you have problems comprehending? I said it would be repetitively stupid or him to ask vegeta a third time after vegeta made it clear the second time he'd rather die than fuse with him again..I dont know where your going with thi part of the argument..
The story doesnt need a repetition of the same thought; are you saying vegta cant sense ki as good as goku? let be barrow this:
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| + Emmeth | Dec 28 2014, 04:09 PM Post #27 |
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Stop acting like you're right no matter what.
^ Questions like these are completely unnecessary in the debates we have daily on this forum. You can simply drop it and just say your opinion without being condescending. Thank you. |
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| EMIYA | Dec 28 2014, 04:10 PM Post #28 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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Sure let's use common sense. Common sense says look at the statements, statements say Goku can't beat Super Boo but can defeat Kid Boo. Common sense says Super Boo>Kid Boo. Well argument again finished, Super Boo is stronger. Although anyone with common sense would've realized that. |
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| SSJ | Dec 28 2014, 04:30 PM Post #29 |
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I don't know why this gets argued to this day. Is it because people saw the anime first and want to hold onto the twisted logic that's brought forth in it? Reading the manga makes it clear that Pure Boo is certainly weaker, there's no way to get around it besides bias. |
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| EMIYA | Dec 28 2014, 04:38 PM Post #30 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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Because Super Saiyan it's not about what the manga thinks, its about what I think. You see, in the end I'm the one who gets to decide what's right or wrong. I don't care what the manga says, I can't decide anything that is right or wrong from the manga. Remember this Super Saiyan because its important. The manga must support my beliefs, not the other way around. My objective is correct and I don't need to prove it, but the manga must be able to prove my beliefs. If it cannot, than it is wrong and I am perfectly allowed to ignore anything and everything from it as I wish. I am superior to it and anything I say or think is superior to it. And this is the twisted kind of logic people will use. |
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