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SSJ Gotenks (Pre-ROSAT) VS Kid Buu
Topic Started: Dec 27 2014, 03:02 PM (2,182 Views)
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Dec 28 2014, 05:02 PM
The context was about Boo not Gotenks. Piccolo was nervously worried about the situation and Goku lied just for Piccolo to calm down.

Piccolo doesn't know how strong Goku if he go all out. Piccolo didn't question Gotenks because he's enough to destroy Fat Boo.
Can you point out where a comparison between Gotenks and Pure Boo was made in your post?
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Why didn't Goku lie to Trunks when he was visibly worried about fighting Cell? He's not the type of person to lie about anything, especially when it comes to strength. He's straight and brutal with his comments, as seen when he put Vegeta down when he came out of the RoSaT. Why is he suddenly worried about calming Piccolo down and stopping his worries?
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Dec 28 2014, 05:02 PM
Piccolo was nervously worried about the situation and Goku lied just for Piccolo to calm down.

And how exactly do you know this? Are you able to read Goku's mind and know precisely when he is and isn't telling the truth?

Otherwise you're just spitting out more baseless speculation.
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I should ask what I asked in the last thread before Emmeth closed it. Why did Goku have to include "stronger than me" in his statement to Piccolo? Piccolo already knew Goku was stronger than Boo and that the Super Saiyan 3 form was a contributor to Goku doubting his chances. Goku simply saying Gotenks would "definitely" beat Boo was all he needed to say. That is all Piccolo needed to hear, not anything of a comparison between Goku and Gotenks.
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Goku lied to Piccolo? That is 100% baseless.

Whenever Goku lied, he admitted it later on.
>Hey I probably can't beat Fat Boo
>In fact I could've beaten Fat Boo back then

>Someone stronger than me will fight him
>Nope, Gotenks turned out to be inferior to me

But you never see that last part. A non-contradicted statement = fact

SSJ Gotenks (Pre) > SSJ3 Goku and thus SSJ Gotenks (Pre) > Pure Boo
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@Pyrus,

Goku is equal to Kid Boo perhaps little stronger.
Like I said the context here is Boo not Gotenks. Piccolo was extremely worried about it and Goku told him to calm down. Goku didn't told this to Boo and why did he told this to Piccolo? Because hr wanted him to calm down.

He already told him that Gotenks can win and why Piccolo was still worried? Alot of here claim that rival boost was just throw away line same here for Gotenks.

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@Mr. Harshbrown,

Actually, that's the context here, the only solid statement from Gotenks is he can beat Boo that's it. Nobody say that Gotenks is stronger than Goku and Piccolo was just impressed by Gotenks power which was capable destroy Fatso.
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Dec 28 2014, 05:46 PM
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@Pyrus,

Goku is equal to Kid Boo perhaps little stronger.
Like I said the context here is Boo not Gotenks. Piccolo was extremely worried about it and Goku told him to calm down. Goku didn't told this to Boo and why did he told this to Piccolo? Because hr wanted him to calm down.

He already told him that Gotenks can win and why Piccolo was still worried? Alot of here claim that rival boost was just throw away line same here for Gotenks.

@Nagito, read above....

@Mr. Harshbrown,

Actually, that's the context here, the only solid statement from Gotenks is he can beat Boo that's it. Nobody say that Gotenks is stronger than Goku and Piccolo was just impressed by Gotenks power which was capable destroy Fatso.
Yet he didn't try and calm Trunks down when he was extremely worried about Cell. In the 7 years since he last saw everybody, he's certainly become a caring person who's very concerned about other people's worries. He let his friends worry for 10 days about Cell because...why? He said about this vague 'plan' and let them be extremely concerned.

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Goku was counting on Gohan. Beside, Goku wanted to test himself against Cell.
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You're not getting anywhere with Pure Boo > SSJ Gotenks. It's counter-productive.
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SaiyanXjin5
Dec 28 2014, 06:01 PM
Goku was counting on Gohan. Beside, Goku wanted to test himself against Cell.
That's completely irrelevant. Why didn't he ease Trunks' worries instead of letting him be extremely concerned? He did it with Piccolo, so why not with Trunks and the others?
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As Stark already pointed out, Goku always admitted it when he lied. If he says Gotenks would be stronger and Piccolo didn't contradict that statement, he would be stronger.

It's irrelevant that Goku lied regardless, because Piccolo can sense for himself and knew how strong SSJ3 Goku was contra Fat Boo. If Goku says he can defeat Pure Boo and Fat Boo (implies they are about as strong), Gotenks has to be stronger.
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@Nagito,
Because he has a planned, Goku doesn't even think Trunks werr worried about that. This is different from Boo Arc. The world was depending on the kids. They only have two days for hope so that's it.

@Emmett,
Goku was trying to be out of Picture, he felt that he shouldn't be the responsibility for this.
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Dec 28 2014, 06:26 PM
@Emmett,
Goku was trying to be out of Picture, he felt that he shouldn't be the responsibility for this.
Doesn't matter. Piccolo can judge for himself and he didn't contradict Goku's statement.
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What Goku actually said after his fight with Boo was that the fighters Babidi was looking for would be ready in two days. Boo asked if they were strong but Babidi interrupted with taunts before Goku could answer.

When Chi-Chi was worrying about Goten being killed, Goku comforted her by saying they couldn't lose with Fusion. He didn't include the "stronger than me" part. He couldn't have said that same thing to Piccolo? He had to add "someone stronger than me" or Piccolo wouldn't have believed him for some reason?

Piccolo wasn't worried after Goku brought up Fusion, except for the issue of time, although Goku assured him that the boys would have it down by the next day, likely due to his faith in them being prodigies. All of Goku's words were hyping up Fusion, and Piccolo had no reason to doubt them, nor did anybody question these words at the time or later down the line.

Boo himself only wanted someone strong to fight. That was his only question to Goku before the Saiyan left. That was the only requirement for him.

There's a glitch in the matrix. Piccolo could tell Goku was holding back and was stronger than Boo, and believed Goku when he said he "probably" couldn't have beaten Boo, yet was told that Fusion would definitely get the job done. Doesn't that tell you that Gotenks would need to be stronger than Goku to get the job done in Piccolo's eyes? To Piccolo, despite being the stronger fighter compared to Boo, Goku couldn't have won, but apparently Gotenks would undoubtedly be able to. If Gotenks turned out weaker than Goku, Piccolo should have been worried, not to mention angered by the fact that Goku lied to him. Essentially, if Goku's 10 to Boo's 9 isn't enough, then Gotenks would need to be an 11 or higher, wouldn't he?
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