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| + Six Trails | Dec 24 2014, 01:19 AM Post #1 | |
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Fill in these blanks? Yardrat Goku (SSJ) = Mecha arc F. Trunks (SSJ) = ----------------------------------- Android arc Goku (SSJ) = ---Sick SSJ Goku = Android arc Piccolo = Android arc Vegeta (SSJ) = Android arc Trunks (SSJ) = 19 post = 20 post = Edited by Six Trails, Dec 24 2014, 01:20 AM.
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| FutureProtagonist | Dec 24 2014, 01:26 AM Post #2 | |
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Yardrat Goku (SSJ) = 100 Mecha arc F. Trunks (SSJ) = 90 ----------------------------------- Android arc Goku (SSJ) = 188 ---Sick SSJ Goku = 150 Android arc Piccolo = 138 Android arc Vegeta (SSJ) = 194 Android arc Trunks (SSJ) = 184 19 post = 120 20 post = 125 Edited by FutureProtagonist, Dec 24 2014, 02:01 AM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 24 2014, 01:28 AM Post #3 | |
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Yardrat Goku (SSJ) = 225,000,000 Mecha arc F. Trunks (SSJ) = 200,000,000 ----------------------------------- Android arc Goku (SSJ) = 1,000,000,000 ---Sick SSJ Goku = 550,000,000 Android arc Piccolo = 650,000,000 Android arc Vegeta (SSJ) = 1,100,000,000 Android arc Trunks (SSJ) = 900,000,000 19 post = 500,000,000 20 post = 550,000,000 |
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| + Six Trails | Dec 24 2014, 01:42 AM Post #4 | |
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That might be a bit excessive, no? 50% Future 17 < SSJ Future Gohan (one-arm) < SSJ Future Trunks < SSJ Goku < Future 17 right? So Android arc SSJ Goku could be less than 2x SSJ mecha arc Trunks and I don't think 19 and 20 need to be that much stronger than Mecha arc Trunks. Post-absorption 19 was strong enough to make SSJ Vegeta bleed, so Vegeta doesn't need to be 2x stronger. and Vegeta still says that post-absorption 19 wasn't as strong as Future Trunks made the androids out to be. I don't think Mecha arc Future Trunks should be one-shot material for post-absorbtion 19, more like just in stomping range. Edited by Six Trails, Dec 24 2014, 01:47 AM.
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| + Yusuke | Dec 24 2014, 01:52 AM Post #5 | |
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Gonna use Nagito's format since i'm too lazy to make one lol. Yardrat Goku (SSJ) = 225 Mecha arc F. Trunks (SSJ) = 205 ----------------------------------- Android arc Goku (SSJ) = 600 ---Sick SSJ Goku = 300 Android arc Piccolo = 480 Android arc Vegeta (SSJ) = 640 Android arc F. Trunks (SSJ) = 560 19 pre = 250 20 pre = 275 19 post = 375 20 post = 400 Edited by Yusuke, Dec 24 2014, 01:53 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Dec 24 2014, 02:09 AM Post #6 | |
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I ordered them from strongest to weakest. I hope that's okay with you. It just made my OCD a bit easier to deal with here. I also added in the future artificial humans for scale, and the pre-absorption androids. ----- Super Saiyan Goku (post-Yardrat) - 225 Super Saiyan Trunks - 200 ----- Future Artificial Human #17 - 445 Future Artificial Human #18 - 400 Super Saiyan Vegeta (android saga) - 400 Super Saiyan Goku (android saga) - 380 --sick - 300 Super Saiyan Trunks (android saga) - 360 Piccolo - 300 Android #20 (post-absorptions) - 250 Android #19 (post-absorptions) - 240* Android #20 - 225 Android #19 - 180 Future Artificial Human #17 (40% power) - 180 ----- The androids are tough because they need to fit in between Trunks from his debut and Piccolo post-android training, the latter of whom needs to be reasonably below Trunks post-android training, who should only be able to fight "fairly well" against the artificial humans of his timeline. Future #17 (35-40% power) < SSj Future Gohan (1 arm) ~< SSj Trunks (debut) </< Android #19 (post) < Android #20 (post) <</< Piccolo <</< SSj Trunks < SSj Goku < SSj Vegeta ~ Future #18 < Future #17 Jack convinced me of the second half of that chain a while ago, and I've stuck by it ever since. *I think this can be a tad lower, but I'll leave it for now. Edited by Pyrus, Dec 24 2014, 02:14 AM.
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| Fearless Saiyajin | Dec 24 2014, 06:59 AM Post #7 | |
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@Pyrus, some doubt. I think you should put Yadrat Goku is greater than that because Trunks says Goku is greater than rumours tells him. And also where do you put Androids expected? |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 24 2014, 07:02 AM Post #8 | |
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If I raise Goku then I have to raise #20, which moves everybody up, and the cap is the future artificial humans. It depends on what Trunks expected. Expected androids? Enough to stomp Trunks is what I'd give 'em. |
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| Vertical | Dec 24 2014, 07:02 AM Post #9 | |
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I like this chain in general but just wanted to comment that It can get even tighter if you believe that the power Trunks fought "fairly well" against wasn't actually their maximum strength. |
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| DEY DID DIS 2 ME | Dec 24 2014, 10:36 AM Post #10 | |
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Super Saiyan Goku (post-Yardrat) - 190 Super Saiyan Trunks - 150 Freeza - 150 ----- Super Saiyan Vegeta - 894 Super Saiyan Goku - 715 Super Saiyan Trunks - 715 Son Goku (Afflicted) - 572 Piccolo - 458 Android #20 (post-absorptions) - 366 Android #19 (post-absorptions) - 235 Android #19 - 150 |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 24 2014, 10:39 AM Post #11 | |
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I believe it was, so I'm just stuck in a tight situation, not a vacuum hose. |
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| DEY DID DIS 2 ME | Dec 24 2014, 10:42 AM Post #12 | |
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| kuartus4 | Dec 24 2014, 09:49 PM Post #13 | |
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Yardrat Goku (SSJ) = 240 Mecha arc F. Trunks (SSJ) = 200 ----------------------------------- Android arc Goku (SSJ) = 380 ---Sick SSJ Goku = 160 Android arc Piccolo = 320 Android arc Vegeta (SSJ) = 400 Android arc Trunks (SSJ) = 360 19 post Goku = 225 20 post Piccolo= 253.86 This is what I have for 19 and 20 pre and the future androids: Base 19: 128 Base 20: 128 20 post Yamcha: 144 20 post Veggie blast: 147.2 Future 17 & 18: 430 |
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| SSJ | Dec 24 2014, 10:03 PM Post #14 | |
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Don't you think 20 is pretty close to Piccolo here? |
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| FutureProtagonist | Dec 24 2014, 10:05 PM Post #15 | |
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Yeah, but 20 is a lousy fighter and underestimated Piccolo. It's not perfect, but I don't feel like re-doing it entirely. |
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