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How many times stronger is Ultimate Gohan than SSJ3 Goku?
Topic Started: Dec 21 2014, 01:46 AM (6,361 Views)
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If someone is stronger than the previous strongest he would have act like that. Seriously, Goku just lied about that and that statement wasn't for Piccolo it was for Boo.
Was Base Gotenks stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku?
Piccolo already said you'll lose, what more do you want?
But you were going off reactions, I thought.
Ssjin Gotenks has no feats and has no statement thats why. Piccolo was confident for him to be stronger than Boo not Goku. Beside Goku wasn't going all out against Boo so how can he tell the difference?
What do you want? A statement and a feat, just a feat, just a statement, what exactly? It seems like you're moving the goal posts with this.

Goku's fight against Boo isn't all that relevant when neither fighter was going all-out.
Come on, does it really hard to understand? The statement wasn't for Gotenks, it was for Boo and the reason fir him to tell that is because he'll destroy the earth if he doesn't have fun anymore. That's why Goku begged him for not destroy it because there's a stronger fighter will come.
Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P9.3
Piccolo: “If that bastard felt like it, he could wipe out the entire Earth, up here included, in the blink of an eye…!”
Goku: “It’s alright, I don’t think he’ll take out the Earth. After all, I told him that in 2 days, someone stronger than me would fight him, and he seemed happy…”
Note: Goku actually never told Boo this (apparently he's gone senile in the afterlife).


Why did Goku include the part about someone stronger than him? He didn't need to say that if all he wanted to do was calm Piccolo down.
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Simple, he told that Boo wouldn't destroy it. Why? Because someone will come stronger than him. Piccolo would definitely asked why especially he used to be like that.

@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
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Dec 24 2014, 08:11 AM
@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Elaborate, please. I need to know if you really think SSJ Gotenks is weaker than SSJ3 Goku for instance.
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@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Elaborate, please. I need to know if you really think SSJ Gotenks is weaker than SSJ3 Goku for instance.
He does.

He believes SSJ 3 Goku > SSJ Gotenks Pre > Base Gotenks Post.
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@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Elaborate, please. I need to know if you really think SSJ Gotenks is weaker than SSJ3 Goku for instance.
He does.

He believes SSJ 3 Goku > SSJ Gotenks Pre > Base Gotenks Post.
Now that's just counter-productive, isn't it?
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@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Elaborate, please. I need to know if you really think SSJ Gotenks is weaker than SSJ3 Goku for instance.
He does.

He believes SSJ 3 Goku > SSJ Gotenks Pre > Base Gotenks Post.
Now that's just counter-productive, isn't it?
How? That's what he believes, I'm just stating it.
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Simple, he told that Boo wouldn't destroy it. Why? Because someone will come stronger than him. Piccolo would definitely asked why especially he used to be like that.

@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Why, though? All he had to say was that he told Boo someone strong would come to fight him in two days, or something like that. He didn't need to include "stronger than me" since all it does is send Piccolo the wrong message if Gotenks really isn't going to be that strong.
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@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Elaborate, please. I need to know if you really think SSJ Gotenks is weaker than SSJ3 Goku for instance.
He does.

He believes SSJ 3 Goku > SSJ Gotenks Pre > Base Gotenks Post.
Now that's just counter-productive, isn't it?
How? That's what he believes, I'm just stating it.
What I mean is it goes against the linearity of the show. You don't get heroes that's weaker than the last. Just trying to teach people something here :p
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@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Elaborate, please. I need to know if you really think SSJ Gotenks is weaker than SSJ3 Goku for instance.
He does.

He believes SSJ 3 Goku > SSJ Gotenks Pre > Base Gotenks Post.
Now that's just counter-productive, isn't it?
How? That's what he believes, I'm just stating it.
What I mean is it goes against the linearity of the show. You don't get heroes that's weaker than the last. Just trying to teach people something here :p
Oh lol, in that case I agree.

He throws out implications and statements due to "lack of feats" and bias. Like really, I'm not sure what this guy needs to consider something as proof.
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It's quite simple, really. If Piccolo says you're not gonna beat Fat Boo, you're weaker than Goku. Proven when Base Gotenks got spanked by Fat Boo. If he doesn't say it again, you're stronger than Goku. Proven when Piccolo only questioned SSJ Gotenks' speed. When Piccolo is more impressed with Base Gotenks POST than the previous forms, you've got yourself linearity and a stronger hero than SSJ3 Goku.
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Simple, he told that Boo wouldn't destroy it. Why? Because someone will come stronger than him. Piccolo would definitely asked why especially he used to be like that.

@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Why, though? All he had to say was that he told Boo someone strong would come to fight him in two days, or something like that. He didn't need to include "stronger than me" since all it does is send Piccolo the wrong message if Gotenks really isn't going to be that strong.
Did you see how Piccolo was really upset? He was nervously that time was the gamble here. That statement wwasn't brought up again because it wasn't fact and even though you think Piccolo confirmed it. He didn't sensed fully all out Goku just like he did to Vegeta.

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Gotenks was mentioned that the fusion was successful. Nothing says about his power, only Roshi said. They even mentioned only his confidence.
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Dec 24 2014, 08:57 AM
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Gotenks was mentioned that the fusion was successful. Nothing says about his power, only Roshi said. They even mentioned only his confidence.
But they don't say he's weaker than Fat Boo. That's the difference.
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Simple, he told that Boo wouldn't destroy it. Why? Because someone will come stronger than him. Piccolo would definitely asked why especially he used to be like that.

@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Why, though? All he had to say was that he told Boo someone strong would come to fight him in two days, or something like that. He didn't need to include "stronger than me" since all it does is send Piccolo the wrong message if Gotenks really isn't going to be that strong.
Did you see how Piccolo was really upset? He was nervously that time was the gamble here. That statement wwasn't brought up again because it wasn't fact and even though you think Piccolo confirmed it. He didn't sensed fully all out Goku just like he did to Vegeta.
The specific way Goku calmed down Piccolo is an issue. He didn't need to say anything about someone stronger than himself. Piccolo could tell from the fight that Goku was stronger than Boo but wasn't going all-out, hence why he asked him if he could've won.
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Simple, he told that Boo wouldn't destroy it. Why? Because someone will come stronger than him. Piccolo would definitely asked why especially he used to be like that.

@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Why, though? All he had to say was that he told Boo someone strong would come to fight him in two days, or something like that. He didn't need to include "stronger than me" since all it does is send Piccolo the wrong message if Gotenks really isn't going to be that strong.
Did you see how Piccolo was really upset? He was nervously that time was the gamble here. That statement wwasn't brought up again because it wasn't fact and even though you think Piccolo confirmed it. He didn't sensed fully all out Goku just like he did to Vegeta.
The specific way Goku calmed down Piccolo is an issue. He didn't need to say anything about someone stronger than himself. Piccolo could tell from the fight that Goku was stronger than Boo but wasn't going all-out, hence why he asked him if he could've won.
And that's the reason he couldn't say that Gotenks is stronger than Goku.
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Simple, he told that Boo wouldn't destroy it. Why? Because someone will come stronger than him. Piccolo would definitely asked why especially he used to be like that.

@Emmeth, Gotenks Vs Goku.
Why, though? All he had to say was that he told Boo someone strong would come to fight him in two days, or something like that. He didn't need to include "stronger than me" since all it does is send Piccolo the wrong message if Gotenks really isn't going to be that strong.
Did you see how Piccolo was really upset? He was nervously that time was the gamble here. That statement wwasn't brought up again because it wasn't fact and even though you think Piccolo confirmed it. He didn't sensed fully all out Goku just like he did to Vegeta.
The specific way Goku calmed down Piccolo is an issue. He didn't need to say anything about someone stronger than himself. Piccolo could tell from the fight that Goku was stronger than Boo but wasn't going all-out, hence why he asked him if he could've won.
And that's the reason he couldn't say that Gotenks is stronger than Goku.
Doesn't make him weaker though.
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