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How many times stronger is Ultimate Gohan than SSJ3 Goku?
Topic Started: Dec 21 2014, 01:46 AM (6,368 Views)
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your right, this is just a prime example of him being stupid. It's really a prime example of bad writing. We all know why AT didn't have Gotenks or Gohan come, it would be anti-climatic. It's always been AT"s style to kind of out with a bang to some degree with fights on the line. He does it all the time. The main villain usually ends up stomping on everyone, at some point the heroes get an upgrade and return the favor. Third round occurs with both sides relatively equal to one another and ending on a climatic note.

It's like his personal style. But it had nothing to do with Gotenks or Gohan's inability to defeat Boo. AT dug himself into a ditch with this one and then has Vegeta talk about how humans need to take responsibility...which is the biggest load of bull Vegeta has probably ever spouted from his mouth.


Well cant argue against that..you are right there.

There is so many examples of bad writing in this arc alone, its ridiculous. ...How does vegeta even know about the spirit bomb? at the time when he saw the spirit bomb it was just a strange ball of energy that came out of no where, to him. And it wasn't even strong enough to kill him even when he was in a weaken state(weak enough for gohan to a challenge i.e very weak), so i cant see someone like him being interested enough to ask about it.

And did android 17 even meet goku? why is he so willingly lifting his hand up speaking as though they've met before?

Makes you wonder about Akiras mindset or the treatment/ conditions he was force to follow at that time.



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I'm pretty happy with 2.5x-3x... haven't nailed it down yet.
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I have it like 2-4x stronger. I don't take Base Gotenks seriously and something like this

Mystic Gohan: 100
Ssjin3 Gotenks: 75
Ssjin3 Goku: 25
Ssjin3 Gotenks Post: 23
Ssjin Gotenks Pre: 18
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SaiyanXjin5
Dec 21 2014, 07:46 AM
I have it like 2-4x stronger. I don't take Base Gotenks seriously and something like this
Just clarifying: I do. I follow [Post] Base > [Pre] SSJ. Same'ish gap though.
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Its up for you guys to decide.
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I don't understand some people's logic sometimes. Ignoring some forms of a character just because they don't take it seriously? Either you ignore nothing or you ignore it all. You can't pick and choose, that's not what consistency is all about.
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I Have Gohan Thousands Of Times Stronger than SSJ3 Goku
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Even without getting into the Base Gotenks business, to only have a 2x gap is...why? When the manga is basically telling you.

Gohan>SSJ3 Gotenks>SSJ2 Gotenks>SSJ Gotenks (post)>SSJ Gotenks Pre>SSj3 Goku.

It makes me wonder. Are guys using a 1.2x SSJ2 amp or something?
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At the very least I feel it should be a 10-15x gap. A fusion of all things should be far ahead of Goku. Although I don't think they have to be thousands of times stronger either, I guess that's just my bias
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Well, it's supposed to be colossal, since the gap is larger than the SSJ3 multiplier. Even if SSJ3 Goku were equal with Base Gotenks Post, it'd be slightly bigger than the SSJ3 multiplier. Since he is weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks, it's that much more weaker.

Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ2 Gotenks > SSJ Gotenks > Base Gotenks > SSJ Gotenks Pre > SSJ3 Goku
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Dec 21 2014, 02:47 PM
Even without getting into the Base Gotenks business, to only have a 2x gap is...why? When the manga is basically telling you.

Gohan>SSJ3 Gotenks>SSJ2 Gotenks>SSJ Gotenks (post)>SSJ Gotenks Pre>SSj3 Goku.

It makes me wonder. Are guys using a 1.2x SSJ2 amp or something?
...or something.
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Thousands of times stronger. Vegeta didn't necessarily know how strong Gohan was or even about Gotenks' existence. Bulma may have mentioned something to him about Goku's spirit bomb without Vegeta's questioning. I don't know why Goku wouldn't insist other than worrying about Gohan getting absorbed. They might as well try the spirit bomb and if it fails they can rely on the kids. That's what I hate about the Buu saga's conclusion, they had far too many options (spirit bomb, fusion, Gohan).
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Vegeta knew about Gotenks though, since he stated he saw the Fusion technique when he was dead. :p

If we go by SEG amps, then Ultimate Gohan should be hundreds of times stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
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Dec 21 2014, 06:20 PM
Vegeta knew about Gotenks though, since he stated he saw the Fusion technique when he was dead. :p

If we go by SEG amps, then Ultimate Gohan should be hundreds of times stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
He may not have known about Gotenks' power. It's likely he didn't feel Goku's, and he didn't know Boo had powered up so much since he died.
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I just thought of another option they could have used against Kid Buu. Mr Buu could have temporarily absorbed ssj3 Goku and ssj2 Vegeta.
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