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| Gai (7th Gate) takes on Dragonball | |
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 21 2014, 12:16 AM Post #1 |
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Izanagi!
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How far do you think he makes it? Are any of the characters able to withstand his punches? Considering the nature of his signature attack, Hirudora, I doubt it; ![]()
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Dec 29 2014, 02:35 AM Post #121 |
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23rd Goku has what moon lvl durability? a punch from someone that made a crater into the ground doesn't come close to harming goku Right now your w***ing the feat sure it's an impressive feat but that feat doesn't come close too planet lvl let alone solar system lvl in which current Goku's durability is right now Gai may have more AOE when it come's to his physical attacks but like i said before AOE =/= Attack Potency So no his attack won't be hurting 23rd Goku let alone anyone in DBZ Let's say Gai's punch is island lvl (it isn't but let's say it is) His punch would only be around 4300 Megatons Now 23rd Goku has around moon lvl durability that's 29,722,494,170,000 megatons So as you can see the difference is quite huge he still doesn't have enough energy needed to harm 23rd Goku let alone Goku's strongest form Gai has the advantage in AOE but Goku has all the advantage in Attack potency and that's all he needs to win |
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 29 2014, 02:50 AM Post #122 |
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Izanagi!
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Since you seem to love numbers so much, could you tell me how much force would be behind a punch from someone who's travelling faster than light? |
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Dec 29 2014, 02:58 AM Post #123 |
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You can do it yourself They have kinetic energy calculators online |
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 29 2014, 03:15 AM Post #124 |
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Izanagi!
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''4.9431535e+18'' Can't make head or tail of that. |
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Dec 29 2014, 03:38 AM Post #125 |
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I'm assuming that's joules which equals to 4,943,153,500,000,000,000 or 1181.442041109 megatons Or if it was megatons it would be 4,943,153,500,000,000,000 mt Which would be above moon busting and into planet lvl (I hope you're not implying Gai is light speed) |
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 29 2014, 03:39 AM Post #126 |
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Izanagi!
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Well, given that he was fast enough to distort space with just his speed and considering that Madara was reacting to ninjas using instant teleportation, yeah, I am. |
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Dec 29 2014, 03:42 AM Post #127 |
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Teleportation is another fancy way of saying that guy is fast Kid Goku can do the same to a regular human |
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| * Yu Narukami | Dec 29 2014, 03:42 AM Post #128 |
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Izanagi!
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No, he literally uses teleportation. 'Hiraishin' and 'Hiraishingiri'. |
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| + Steve | Dec 29 2014, 03:45 AM Post #129 |
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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Is it so hard to believe that just because someone can blow up a mountain doesn't mean they can survive that same attack? I mean it's well established that when a Ki attack is charged a persons power level rises, being focused in to said attack. Ki attacks > the Ki used in a persons body during battle. So when someone of PL 100 busts a moon that in no way means it takes 100 PL to do so a charging an attack goes way above that, meaning PL 200 still wouldn't make them a casual moonbuster or that they can survive such an attack. Easily explained if you think of their energy as a substance that gets more dense as it is compressed, if it's spread out it's much weaker. Like a patch of snow, you can stick your fingers through it easily but if you gather it up in to a ball and compress it enough you might even need to take a hammer to it to break it as easily as before. So when someone's PL is X, that isn't as much as they can put out at all making scaling irrelevant as you need to know the boost they give attacks. Also if you have to have equal or close to PL to damage them. Please explain why forces of nature, gravity for instance can cause them pain by the extra weight put on their bodies, a little bit more physical strain causes harm. Why shouldn't a purely physical attack? |
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| Mihawk | Dec 29 2014, 04:33 AM Post #130 |
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Read this thread, it will help you understand what we're saying. Ki and physical durability/strength are different. I actually found out later on that this is essentially stated in the manga too with the Z sword training. Although yes, ki does boost your physical strength. Edited by Mihawk, Dec 29 2014, 04:33 AM.
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 29 2014, 05:32 AM Post #131 |
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I don't remember anything hinting at the split durability in the Z sword training. My memory is foggy on it though would you mind giving a quote on it? |
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| Mihawk | Dec 29 2014, 04:07 PM Post #132 |
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I meant the split between physical strength and ki strength. Not specifically durability (but that would fall in the same category). |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Dec 29 2014, 04:21 PM Post #133 |
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What about the Z sword training suggests a split between physical strength and ki strength? |
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| Mihawk | Dec 29 2014, 05:41 PM Post #134 |
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Could have swore I read a quote that Gohan claimed the training was increasing his physical strength alone. Guess not. |
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| BioBroly288 | Dec 29 2014, 08:25 PM Post #135 |
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Saiyan Of Legend
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Since when was gai a moon buster think before talking. |
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