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It's not like DB characters can casually spam out mountain busters at this point. Charged blasts are easily dodged as seen in the Budokais.
thats because there reaction speed is rediculous,They look slow to the viwer but if they were to move in actual speed we wouldnt see anything. Kind of like why the battle with SSJ Goku and FP Frieza was 5 minutes but took about 3 episodes. Do you know the distance between the moon and earth its crazy yet Roshi busted it in 3 seconds showing the there blast speed is crazy fast. Gai aint messing with Roshi.
Err unless you're saying that pieces of the moon are faster than light and for some reason can survive breaking through the Earth's atmosphere (it can't) the distance between the Earth and Moon wasn't drawn in the original manga to be all that big. Plus some characters could breathe on the moon too. The moon was drawn to be in the Earth's atmosphere in the original manga.
no it wasnt as in DB Boss Rabbit and his Goons were sent to the Moon and it wasnt even near earth. Even if i was near the atmosphere 8 gate gai cant tag the moon faster than KHH (Distant wise). Gai has good traveling speed but reaction speed is slow.Miyamoto didnt put Guns in the series because he admited that since some guns exceed sound speed it would basiclly kill off the show.Roshi caught uzi bullets with out trying and his KHH>>>>Sound speed.
He's literally moving fast enough to distort space. Gai made a bigger fool out of Madara than Tobirama and Minato did using their Hiraishin. You've got Kakashi pre-series reacting to a bolt of lightning and cutting it in two, so he's definitely faster than sound. Gai is dozens of times stronger and faster than that Kakashi, so his reaction speed is absolutely amazing. When did he say that? At the beginning of the series, I'm betting, and that would only be regarding the main cast, which were Genin.
so your basiclly throwing Miyamotos statement out the window huh (If your implying that you think i think that Gai is slower than sound i dont but he can dodge it since of his slow reaction.) Gai cant tag the moon faster than Roshis KHH and thats a fact.Also wasnt that chakara affinity liqhting as nothing has inplyed that chakara natures=The real deal. Also Naruto is full of Hyperbole as it stated than Amaterasu=Sun which is BS Considering it didnt even kill karin. A Has a lighting affinity armor yet does he move at th speed... NO Since he has trouble dodging a Amaterasu (TAKA Sasuke dodged Itachis).
Gai states that Kakashi cut a bolt of lightning with his Raikiri. Why wouldn't he say if it was an enemy's lightning style jutsu? Unless we're given a reason to doubt it, then we shouldn't. Itachi later reacts to Sasuke's Kirin, which is pretty much a lightning bolt. The heat of Amaterasu is debatable, but it's stated that Sasuke is much better at using Amaterasu and manipulating it. A didn't have trouble dodging it; the only time it hit him was when he sacrificed his arm to try and kill Sasuke. He didn't suggest that dodging Amaterasu was difficult.
how is the heat of the sun debatable its hyperbole to the max, a weaken Karin survived it, The Amaterasu Hyperbole is second in hyperbole to The Sentry FP Blast. I Swear every major enemy n some minor survived it when the sun can turn any 1 in the Narutoverse to crisp. Kid Goku with his training with POPO Was faster than Liqhting and every Major Human Protaganist by the time of the 23rd Martial arts tourney surpassed him exept Chiotzu. Amaterasu was stated to be undodgeble yet every one who faces sasuke ends up dodging it. How was Kirin just a liqhting bolt a large Liqhting Dragon came spewing out the clouds. What Sasuke did was he did take natural liqhting from the Thunderclouds but manipulating it making go down much slower as it was stated by Zetsu that it hit the floor 1/1000th of a second when lighting moves at 186,000 miles per second showing that yes Itachi did dodge lighting but was slower than without the manipulation. Also the sound of thunder is 1/1100th making kirin comparable to TS
Lightning speed, etc all debunked here: http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8493518/1/
So we should take Your calculations and say there fact... I dont think so. To Nagito:In the 1st tourney kid krillin and a supressed roshi fought and squezzed in games of R.P.S in seconds and no one saw what they were doing its not at all farfetched saying Goku around POPOS Training could move Lighning speed.Kakashis reaction can be classified as hyperbole as Itachi (Superior to Kakashi) nearly got caught by kirin something much slower to the real deal,Its more understandable if its a liqhting style jutsu I didn't calculate anything. The entire point of the thread was to avoid calculations completely.
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Err unless you're saying that pieces of the moon are faster than light and for some reason can survive breaking through the Earth's atmosphere (it can't) the distance between the Earth and Moon wasn't drawn in the original manga to be all that big. Plus some characters could breathe on the moon too. The moon was drawn to be in the Earth's atmosphere in the original manga.
no it wasnt as in DB Boss Rabbit and his Goons were sent to the Moon and it wasnt even near earth. Even if i was near the atmosphere 8 gate gai cant tag the moon faster than KHH (Distant wise). Gai has good traveling speed but reaction speed is slow.Miyamoto didnt put Guns in the series because he admited that since some guns exceed sound speed it would basiclly kill off the show.Roshi caught uzi bullets with out trying and his KHH>>>>Sound speed.
He's literally moving fast enough to distort space. Gai made a bigger fool out of Madara than Tobirama and Minato did using their Hiraishin. You've got Kakashi pre-series reacting to a bolt of lightning and cutting it in two, so he's definitely faster than sound. Gai is dozens of times stronger and faster than that Kakashi, so his reaction speed is absolutely amazing. When did he say that? At the beginning of the series, I'm betting, and that would only be regarding the main cast, which were Genin.
so your basiclly throwing Miyamotos statement out the window huh (If your implying that you think i think that Gai is slower than sound i dont but he can dodge it since of his slow reaction.) Gai cant tag the moon faster than Roshis KHH and thats a fact.Also wasnt that chakara affinity liqhting as nothing has inplyed that chakara natures=The real deal. Also Naruto is full of Hyperbole as it stated than Amaterasu=Sun which is BS Considering it didnt even kill karin. A Has a lighting affinity armor yet does he move at th speed... NO Since he has trouble dodging a Amaterasu (TAKA Sasuke dodged Itachis).
Gai states that Kakashi cut a bolt of lightning with his Raikiri. Why wouldn't he say if it was an enemy's lightning style jutsu? Unless we're given a reason to doubt it, then we shouldn't. Itachi later reacts to Sasuke's Kirin, which is pretty much a lightning bolt. The heat of Amaterasu is debatable, but it's stated that Sasuke is much better at using Amaterasu and manipulating it. A didn't have trouble dodging it; the only time it hit him was when he sacrificed his arm to try and kill Sasuke. He didn't suggest that dodging Amaterasu was difficult.
how is the heat of the sun debatable its hyperbole to the max, a weaken Karin survived it, The Amaterasu Hyperbole is second in hyperbole to The Sentry FP Blast. I Swear every major enemy n some minor survived it when the sun can turn any 1 in the Narutoverse to crisp. Kid Goku with his training with POPO Was faster than Liqhting and every Major Human Protaganist by the time of the 23rd Martial arts tourney surpassed him exept Chiotzu. Amaterasu was stated to be undodgeble yet every one who faces sasuke ends up dodging it. How was Kirin just a liqhting bolt a large Liqhting Dragon came spewing out the clouds. What Sasuke did was he did take natural liqhting from the Thunderclouds but manipulating it making go down much slower as it was stated by Zetsu that it hit the floor 1/1000th of a second when lighting moves at 186,000 miles per second showing that yes Itachi did dodge lighting but was slower than without the manipulation. Also the sound of thunder is 1/1100th making kirin comparable to TS
Lightning speed, etc all debunked here: http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8493518/1/
So we should take Your calculations and say there fact... I dont think so. To Nagito:In the 1st tourney kid krillin and a supressed roshi fought and squezzed in games of R.P.S in seconds and no one saw what they were doing its not at all farfetched saying Goku around POPOS Training could move Lighning speed.Kakashis reaction can be classified as hyperbole as Itachi (Superior to Kakashi) nearly got caught by kirin something much slower to the real deal,Its more understandable if its a liqhting style jutsu
Nah, when it's literally stated that he actually cut a lightning bolt with it, it can't be hyperbole. If Gai had said something about him 'moving as fast as lightning', then it might be a possibility, but that wasn't the case. At that point in the fight, Itachi was exhausted. His body was weak from the disease/condition he was suffering from and the use of Amaterasu several times took its toll on him Can i see a scan to clarify,It could have been GAI exagerating and even if it is true we still have the khh which makes lighting look s***ty and Goku moving at that speed would still make Kakashi his b*** since in later arcs hes been hit by slower.Cause when goku moves at a certain speed hes been able to travel,react and hit at those speeds can kakashi dodge a lighing speed Goku at close combat,doubt it.
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no it wasnt as in DB Boss Rabbit and his Goons were sent to the Moon and it wasnt even near earth. Even if i was near the atmosphere 8 gate gai cant tag the moon faster than KHH (Distant wise). Gai has good traveling speed but reaction speed is slow.Miyamoto didnt put Guns in the series because he admited that since some guns exceed sound speed it would basiclly kill off the show.Roshi caught uzi bullets with out trying and his KHH>>>>Sound speed.
He's literally moving fast enough to distort space. Gai made a bigger fool out of Madara than Tobirama and Minato did using their Hiraishin. You've got Kakashi pre-series reacting to a bolt of lightning and cutting it in two, so he's definitely faster than sound. Gai is dozens of times stronger and faster than that Kakashi, so his reaction speed is absolutely amazing. When did he say that? At the beginning of the series, I'm betting, and that would only be regarding the main cast, which were Genin.
so your basiclly throwing Miyamotos statement out the window huh (If your implying that you think i think that Gai is slower than sound i dont but he can dodge it since of his slow reaction.) Gai cant tag the moon faster than Roshis KHH and thats a fact.Also wasnt that chakara affinity liqhting as nothing has inplyed that chakara natures=The real deal. Also Naruto is full of Hyperbole as it stated than Amaterasu=Sun which is BS Considering it didnt even kill karin. A Has a lighting affinity armor yet does he move at th speed... NO Since he has trouble dodging a Amaterasu (TAKA Sasuke dodged Itachis).
Gai states that Kakashi cut a bolt of lightning with his Raikiri. Why wouldn't he say if it was an enemy's lightning style jutsu? Unless we're given a reason to doubt it, then we shouldn't. Itachi later reacts to Sasuke's Kirin, which is pretty much a lightning bolt. The heat of Amaterasu is debatable, but it's stated that Sasuke is much better at using Amaterasu and manipulating it. A didn't have trouble dodging it; the only time it hit him was when he sacrificed his arm to try and kill Sasuke. He didn't suggest that dodging Amaterasu was difficult.
how is the heat of the sun debatable its hyperbole to the max, a weaken Karin survived it, The Amaterasu Hyperbole is second in hyperbole to The Sentry FP Blast. I Swear every major enemy n some minor survived it when the sun can turn any 1 in the Narutoverse to crisp. Kid Goku with his training with POPO Was faster than Liqhting and every Major Human Protaganist by the time of the 23rd Martial arts tourney surpassed him exept Chiotzu. Amaterasu was stated to be undodgeble yet every one who faces sasuke ends up dodging it. How was Kirin just a liqhting bolt a large Liqhting Dragon came spewing out the clouds. What Sasuke did was he did take natural liqhting from the Thunderclouds but manipulating it making go down much slower as it was stated by Zetsu that it hit the floor 1/1000th of a second when lighting moves at 186,000 miles per second showing that yes Itachi did dodge lighting but was slower than without the manipulation. Also the sound of thunder is 1/1100th making kirin comparable to TS
Lightning speed, etc all debunked here: http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8493518/1/
So we should take Your calculations and say there fact... I dont think so. To Nagito:In the 1st tourney kid krillin and a supressed roshi fought and squezzed in games of R.P.S in seconds and no one saw what they were doing its not at all farfetched saying Goku around POPOS Training could move Lighning speed.Kakashis reaction can be classified as hyperbole as Itachi (Superior to Kakashi) nearly got caught by kirin something much slower to the real deal,Its more understandable if its a liqhting style jutsu
Nah, when it's literally stated that he actually cut a lightning bolt with it, it can't be hyperbole. If Gai had said something about him 'moving as fast as lightning', then it might be a possibility, but that wasn't the case. At that point in the fight, Itachi was exhausted. His body was weak from the disease/condition he was suffering from and the use of Amaterasu several times took its toll on him
Can i see a scan to clarify,It could have been GAI exagerating and even if it is true we still have the khh which makes lighting look s***ty and Goku moving at that speed would still make Kakashi his b*** since in later arcs hes been hit by slower.Cause when goku moves at a certain speed hes been able to travel,react and hit at those speeds can kakashi dodge a lighing speed Goku at close combat,doubt it. You can see how much time transpires between panels? I'll have to learn how to do that.
Wolf has already shown how the entire basis of that argument is incorrect; the moon wasn't that far away from the Earth
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He's literally moving fast enough to distort space. Gai made a bigger fool out of Madara than Tobirama and Minato did using their Hiraishin. You've got Kakashi pre-series reacting to a bolt of lightning and cutting it in two, so he's definitely faster than sound. Gai is dozens of times stronger and faster than that Kakashi, so his reaction speed is absolutely amazing. When did he say that? At the beginning of the series, I'm betting, and that would only be regarding the main cast, which were Genin.
so your basiclly throwing Miyamotos statement out the window huh (If your implying that you think i think that Gai is slower than sound i dont but he can dodge it since of his slow reaction.) Gai cant tag the moon faster than Roshis KHH and thats a fact.Also wasnt that chakara affinity liqhting as nothing has inplyed that chakara natures=The real deal. Also Naruto is full of Hyperbole as it stated than Amaterasu=Sun which is BS Considering it didnt even kill karin. A Has a lighting affinity armor yet does he move at th speed... NO Since he has trouble dodging a Amaterasu (TAKA Sasuke dodged Itachis).
Gai states that Kakashi cut a bolt of lightning with his Raikiri. Why wouldn't he say if it was an enemy's lightning style jutsu? Unless we're given a reason to doubt it, then we shouldn't. Itachi later reacts to Sasuke's Kirin, which is pretty much a lightning bolt. The heat of Amaterasu is debatable, but it's stated that Sasuke is much better at using Amaterasu and manipulating it. A didn't have trouble dodging it; the only time it hit him was when he sacrificed his arm to try and kill Sasuke. He didn't suggest that dodging Amaterasu was difficult.
how is the heat of the sun debatable its hyperbole to the max, a weaken Karin survived it, The Amaterasu Hyperbole is second in hyperbole to The Sentry FP Blast. I Swear every major enemy n some minor survived it when the sun can turn any 1 in the Narutoverse to crisp. Kid Goku with his training with POPO Was faster than Liqhting and every Major Human Protaganist by the time of the 23rd Martial arts tourney surpassed him exept Chiotzu. Amaterasu was stated to be undodgeble yet every one who faces sasuke ends up dodging it. How was Kirin just a liqhting bolt a large Liqhting Dragon came spewing out the clouds. What Sasuke did was he did take natural liqhting from the Thunderclouds but manipulating it making go down much slower as it was stated by Zetsu that it hit the floor 1/1000th of a second when lighting moves at 186,000 miles per second showing that yes Itachi did dodge lighting but was slower than without the manipulation. Also the sound of thunder is 1/1100th making kirin comparable to TS
Lightning speed, etc all debunked here: http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8493518/1/
So we should take Your calculations and say there fact... I dont think so. To Nagito:In the 1st tourney kid krillin and a supressed roshi fought and squezzed in games of R.P.S in seconds and no one saw what they were doing its not at all farfetched saying Goku around POPOS Training could move Lighning speed.Kakashis reaction can be classified as hyperbole as Itachi (Superior to Kakashi) nearly got caught by kirin something much slower to the real deal,Its more understandable if its a liqhting style jutsu
Nah, when it's literally stated that he actually cut a lightning bolt with it, it can't be hyperbole. If Gai had said something about him 'moving as fast as lightning', then it might be a possibility, but that wasn't the case. At that point in the fight, Itachi was exhausted. His body was weak from the disease/condition he was suffering from and the use of Amaterasu several times took its toll on him
Can i see a scan to clarify,It could have been GAI exagerating and even if it is true we still have the khh which makes lighting look s***ty and Goku moving at that speed would still make Kakashi his b*** since in later arcs hes been hit by slower.Cause when goku moves at a certain speed hes been able to travel,react and hit at those speeds can kakashi dodge a lighing speed Goku at close combat,doubt it.
You can see how much time transpires between panels? I'll have to learn how to do that. Wolf has already shown how the entire basis of that argument is incorrect; the moon wasn't that far away from the Earth Its been shown that if Goku moves at a certain speed he usully hits and reacts to it. Also in the fight with Boss Rabbit (Where they were actually on the moon) you can clearly see that the moon isnt near earths atmosphere. A KHH Was able to leave earth atmosphere and destroy the moon in seconds and than Kami creates a new one out of nothing (A Feat that surpasses the Sage of six paths where he used the earths material to make it). Also your ttaking advice from wolf (Someone who said GAI compares to Frieza Saga come on now)
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It's still within distance to borrow oxygen from Earth. You're right it's not within the atmosphere, but it's certainly near it if pieces of it can fall and hit people's heads.
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That doesn't really make sense anymore. It's still pretty dam far by the looks of it so how the hell did pieces of it fall on the people's heads so quick?
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Kakashi reacts to a Lightning Bolt and cuts it. That's a solid, dependable feat. The situation with Kirin doesn't change anything. All it proves it that Kakashi (Pre-Series) > Itachi (Exhausted), which isn't farfetched at all.
By the war arc, they're muuuuuu~uuuch faster. Naruto's speed was compared with the speed of Hiraishin and Kakashi managed to track and use Kamui on an even faster Naruto.
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Kakashi reacts to a Lightning Bolt and cuts it. That's a solid, dependable feat. The situation with Kirin doesn't change anything. All it proves it that Kakashi (Pre-Series) > Itachi (Exhausted), which isn't farfetched at all.
By the war arc, they're muuuuuu~uuuch faster. Naruto's speed was compared with the speed of Hiraishin and Kakashi managed to track and use Kamui on an even faster Naruto. kakashi saw a flash and compared it to Minatos yellow flash,dosent mean its as fast just mean they look similar.Roshis KHH>>any speed feat in naruto.
Kakashi still cant fight Kid Goku at close quaters and thats a fact.
Roshis moon busting feat>Any busting feat in naruto.
8th gate Gai isnt beating Roshi.
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While I agree roshi's moon busting blast was really fast, I don't think anyone ever reacted to blasts that fast till saiyan saga did they?
And eighth gate gai can throw punches strong enough to leave like 100 foot holes in the ground from just the air current
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Kakashi reacts to a Lightning Bolt and cuts it. That's a solid, dependable feat. The situation with Kirin doesn't change anything. All it proves it that Kakashi (Pre-Series) > Itachi (Exhausted), which isn't farfetched at all.
By the war arc, they're muuuuuu~uuuch faster. Naruto's speed was compared with the speed of Hiraishin and Kakashi managed to track and use Kamui on an even faster Naruto.
kakashi saw a flash and compared it to Minatos yellow flash,dosent mean its as fast just mean they look similar.Roshis KHH>>any speed feat in naruto. Kakashi still cant fight Kid Goku at close quaters and thats a fact. Roshis moon busting feat>Any busting feat in naruto. 8th gate Gai isnt beating Roshi. NTCM Naruto was faster than the Raikage, who kept on Minato's toes for their entire fight, even when Minato was using Hiraishin.
NTCM Naruto ? Minato (Hiraishin) > Raikage
Then Naruto got Bijuu Mode and become much faster, yet Kakashi was still able to keep up and react to it.
It's not a fact, it's anything but a fact.
Is it better than Spoilers for Naruto: The Last Lee destroying half a meteor with Taijutsu and Sasuke destroying the other half with his Chidori?
So Gai distorts space itself with his speed and Roshi is faster?
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Roshi is not faster than 8th gates guy who can bend space with his speed.
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- Nagito Komaeda
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Kakashi reacts to a Lightning Bolt and cuts it. That's a solid, dependable feat. The situation with Kirin doesn't change anything. All it proves it that Kakashi (Pre-Series) > Itachi (Exhausted), which isn't farfetched at all.
By the war arc, they're muuuuuu~uuuch faster. Naruto's speed was compared with the speed of Hiraishin and Kakashi managed to track and use Kamui on an even faster Naruto.
kakashi saw a flash and compared it to Minatos yellow flash,dosent mean its as fast just mean they look similar.Roshis KHH>>any speed feat in naruto. Kakashi still cant fight Kid Goku at close quaters and thats a fact. Roshis moon busting feat>Any busting feat in naruto. 8th gate Gai isnt beating Roshi.
NTCM Naruto was faster than the Raikage, who kept on Minato's toes for their entire fight, even when Minato was using Hiraishin. NTCM Naruto ? Minato (Hiraishin) > Raikage Then Naruto got Bijuu Mode and become much faster, yet Kakashi was still able to keep up and react to it. It's not a fact, it's anything but a fact. Is it better than Spoilers for Naruto: The Last Lee destroying half a meteor with Taijutsu and Sasuke destroying the other half with his Chidori? So Gai distorts space itself with his speed and Roshi is faster? 1.)I Said the KHH is faster than anything and stronger than anything in Naruto 2.)In a close quaters bout,Roshi would make Gai his b*** due to the simple facts that in the World of DB Your Traveling Speed can also be your reaction and striking speed not to mention what a superior martial artist Roshi is in general, GAI Dosent want a long distant bout as well as his KHH would be to fast for GAI and would kill him in a instant. 3.)Gai distorting space was a big deal in Naruto because that franchise never saw any thing as impressive, In DB People went from Faster than Sound to Faster than lighting to Faster than Light (Gotenks tier) and beyond yet nobody comments about it due to there expectation always being blowned away.Also i dont know how Madara could give a clear depiction of Gais speed when he litteraly got his head cramed threwout the whole fight and his eyes were shut so for him being Distorting space is something i can accept but should be looked into.Your still underestimating Roshis speed.
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- Nagito Komaeda
- Dec 25 2014, 09:33 PM
Kakashi reacts to a Lightning Bolt and cuts it. That's a solid, dependable feat. The situation with Kirin doesn't change anything. All it proves it that Kakashi (Pre-Series) > Itachi (Exhausted), which isn't farfetched at all.
By the war arc, they're muuuuuu~uuuch faster. Naruto's speed was compared with the speed of Hiraishin and Kakashi managed to track and use Kamui on an even faster Naruto.
kakashi saw a flash and compared it to Minatos yellow flash,dosent mean its as fast just mean they look similar.Roshis KHH>>any speed feat in naruto. Kakashi still cant fight Kid Goku at close quaters and thats a fact. Roshis moon busting feat>Any busting feat in naruto. 8th gate Gai isnt beating Roshi.
NTCM Naruto was faster than the Raikage, who kept on Minato's toes for their entire fight, even when Minato was using Hiraishin. NTCM Naruto ? Minato (Hiraishin) > Raikage Then Naruto got Bijuu Mode and become much faster, yet Kakashi was still able to keep up and react to it. It's not a fact, it's anything but a fact. Is it better than Spoilers for Naruto: The Last Lee destroying half a meteor with Taijutsu and Sasuke destroying the other half with his Chidori? So Gai distorts space itself with his speed and Roshi is faster?
1.)I Said the KHH is faster than anything and stronger than anything in Naruto 2.)In a close quaters bout,Roshi would make Gai his b*** due to the simple facts that in the World of DB Your Traveling Speed can also be your reaction and striking speed not to mention what a superior martial artist Roshi is in general, GAI Dosent want a long distant bout as well as his KHH would be to fast for GAI and would kill him in a instant. 3.)Gai distorting space was a big deal in Naruto because that franchise never saw any thing as impressive, In DB People went from Faster than Sound to Faster than lighting to Faster than Light (Gotenks tier) and beyond yet nobody comments about it due to there expectation always being blowned away.Also i dont know how Madara could give a clear depiction of Gais speed when he litteraly got his head cramed threwout the whole fight and his eyes were shut so for him being Distorting space is something i can accept but should be looked into.Your still underestimating Roshis speed. When you're as fast or faster than a person who's comparable to teleportation, there's no real problem. Gai wouldn't even let him prep the Kamehameha; he'd blitz him and crush him with the force of his blows. Unless Roshi is fast enough to keep up with teleportation now?
Distorting space with pure speed is better than any speed feat we've ever gotten in DBZ
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Dec 25 2014, 10:49 PM
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- Dec 25 2014, 09:33 PM
Kakashi reacts to a Lightning Bolt and cuts it. That's a solid, dependable feat. The situation with Kirin doesn't change anything. All it proves it that Kakashi (Pre-Series) > Itachi (Exhausted), which isn't farfetched at all.
By the war arc, they're muuuuuu~uuuch faster. Naruto's speed was compared with the speed of Hiraishin and Kakashi managed to track and use Kamui on an even faster Naruto.
kakashi saw a flash and compared it to Minatos yellow flash,dosent mean its as fast just mean they look similar.Roshis KHH>>any speed feat in naruto. Kakashi still cant fight Kid Goku at close quaters and thats a fact. Roshis moon busting feat>Any busting feat in naruto. 8th gate Gai isnt beating Roshi.
NTCM Naruto was faster than the Raikage, who kept on Minato's toes for their entire fight, even when Minato was using Hiraishin. NTCM Naruto ? Minato (Hiraishin) > Raikage Then Naruto got Bijuu Mode and become much faster, yet Kakashi was still able to keep up and react to it. It's not a fact, it's anything but a fact. Is it better than Spoilers for Naruto: The Last Lee destroying half a meteor with Taijutsu and Sasuke destroying the other half with his Chidori? So Gai distorts space itself with his speed and Roshi is faster?
1.)I Said the KHH is faster than anything and stronger than anything in Naruto 2.)In a close quaters bout,Roshi would make Gai his b*** due to the simple facts that in the World of DB Your Traveling Speed can also be your reaction and striking speed not to mention what a superior martial artist Roshi is in general, GAI Dosent want a long distant bout as well as his KHH would be to fast for GAI and would kill him in a instant. 3.)Gai distorting space was a big deal in Naruto because that franchise never saw any thing as impressive, In DB People went from Faster than Sound to Faster than lighting to Faster than Light (Gotenks tier) and beyond yet nobody comments about it due to there expectation always being blowned away.Also i dont know how Madara could give a clear depiction of Gais speed when he litteraly got his head cramed threwout the whole fight and his eyes were shut so for him being Distorting space is something i can accept but should be looked into.Your still underestimating Roshis speed.
When you're as fast or faster than a person who's comparable to teleportation, there's no real problem. Gai wouldn't even let him prep the Kamehameha; he'd blitz him and crush him with the force of his blows. Unless Roshi is fast enough to keep up with teleportation now? Distorting space with pure speed is better than any speed feat we've ever gotten in DBZ oh so your telling me GAI Can go around the earth multiple times in seaconds are you also telling me GAI Can enter heaven with pure speed alone AH NOPE.
Have you seen DB To say something as stupid as that.Roshi dosnt need a KHH as mountain busting hurts GAI a charged ki blast can do the trick.Your also underestimating Roshi as a very supressed Roshi and kid krillin is able to were shown to throw multiple strikes and play R.P.S in between strikes in seaconds.Also just from powering up Roshi could produce powerful air pressure which will repel gai and get hit with a KHH.
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Its just one of gai's technique that was that fast. He can't actually conviently use that speed to go around the world
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