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Gai (7th Gate) takes on Dragonball
Topic Started: Dec 21 2014, 12:16 AM (7,635 Views)
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Izanagi!

How far do you think he makes it? Are any of the characters able to withstand his punches?

Considering the nature of his signature attack, Hirudora, I doubt it;

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wolffanghameha
Dec 29 2014, 04:33 AM
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Dec 29 2014, 02:32 AM
Ssj3vegito96
Dec 29 2014, 12:41 AM
Nobody in dragon ball is stronger than 8th gate gai. 23rd Goku cannot put a several hundred foot hole in the ground with the air current of one causal punch. A casual blast yeah probably but not a punch. If he hits him with a blast then he will probably win. Hand to hand combat gai takes this

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I only took account of the first sentence. Define what you mean by strong. Because in DB, if your Ki is higher than your opponent (Guy) then you're not getting through them despite how impressive it is in Naruto. As I said, Recoome is physically and visually more buffed then Final Form Frieza, but despite that his Ki level is too low for that to mean anything harmful to Frieza because his Ki is augmenting his overall abilities.

Sure 8th Gate Guy can smash pieces of the ground, but you guys are overlooking the fact that he uses these attacks on mountain level durability ninja. We know Goku and most DB cast can tank blasts of this magnitude through statements and scaling via their level Ki.

Read this thread, it will help you understand what we're saying. Ki and physical durability/strength are different. I actually found out later on that this is essentially stated in the manga too with the Z sword training. Although yes, ki does boost your physical strength.
Exactly, yo. That's all you needed to say, Ki boosting your physical strength as well.

And in Gohan's Z-sword training his overall Ki increased as well cause we all know that attacking in the "ordinary way" aka punching and kicking, won't be enough to put Buu down (if the gap isn't there). So if you think the Gohan at Buu is equaled to the stronger Gohan post training then I would appreciate it if you apply what I mean.
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Yes, Ki does boost your physical strength. I don't see how that changes how physical attacks hurt Z fighters more despite lacking the same amount of force as them. They're different yet connected.

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BioBroly288
Dec 29 2014, 08:25 PM
Since when was gai a moon buster think before talking.
Since when was he using a technique that explodes?

Stop with the whole buster thing, something doesn't have to bust X amount of area to be powerful a piercing attack that goes through the hardest substance is stronger than something that blows up a moon.

Gai doesn't deal explosion damage so his busting is irrelevant.


Riddle me this.
Death Beam.
It doesn't explode anything, much less a moon, much much less a planet.
So it's weak?
Yet it kills Vegeta and nearly kills Trunks.

Why don't you try expanding what logic you use because it's debunked as being what power is even in the own series you're taking it from...

There's also Vegeta's move on Buu, Final Impact the games call it IIRC.
Clearly powerful but doesn't blow up squat so what, Kid Goku could tank it since it doesn't bust anything? That's basically what you're trying to say.

So I'll reflect "think before talking" right back at you bro.

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BioBroly288
Dec 29 2014, 08:25 PM
Since when was gai a moon buster think before talking.
Since when was he using a technique that explodes?

Stop with the whole buster thing, something doesn't have to bust X amount of area to be powerful a piercing attack that goes through the hardest substance is stronger than something that blows up a moon.

Gai doesn't deal explosion damage so his busting is irrelevant.


Riddle me this.
Death Beam.
It doesn't explode anything, much less a moon, much much less a planet.
So it's weak?
Yet it kills Vegeta and nearly kills Trunks.

Why don't you try expanding what logic you use because it's debunked as being what power is even in the own series you're taking it from...

There's also Vegeta's move on Buu, Final Impact the games call it IIRC.
Clearly powerful but doesn't blow up squat so what, Kid Goku could tank it since it doesn't bust anything? That's basically what you're trying to say.

So I'll reflect "think before talking" right back at you bro.

(I see no reply but a lot of guest views...)
You said Gais physical attacks are above all beams, which they arent you troll.
The death beam dosent need to bust,it can pierce threw anything which is what its meant for
People in db took punches from Arale and she can shatter moons with her fist, yet shes labled as weak now and called kid Goku super strong.
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Which db character took a punch from arale and when did stale say goku is super strong? Not disagreeing I'm just asking
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BioBroly288
Dec 30 2014, 07:16 PM
You said Gais physical attacks are above all beams, which they arent you troll.
The death beam dosent need to bust,it can pierce threw anything which is what its meant for
People in db took punches from Arale and she can shatter moons with her fist, yet shes labled as weak now and called kid Goku super strong.
When did I say they're "above all beams"?

They do a different type of damage exactly the same as Death Beam does so the buster comments are entirely useless as you don't need to be busting something to do damage, clearly.

Arale who's completely a gag character from another series in for the lols, consistent? Lol no.
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So what's going on now?

His punch isn't too impressive as I already pointed out so is there a consensus on where he stops?

It looks like he gets up to Raditz at most
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Dec 30 2014, 08:28 PM
So what's going on now?

His punch isn't too impressive as I already pointed out so is there a consensus on where he stops?

It looks like he gets up to Raditz at most
How about we use the kind of scaling logic you use?

Gai's punch > any punch in DB
DB punches hurt DB characters < Gai's punch so DB character = dead

So that means if he used KHH by scaling he'd be >>>>>>> DB

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If DB characters don't need energy attacks to beat each other then why the hell should Gai?
Stop with the bias because it's just stupid it doesn't matter how much you like DB/DBZ/GT they don't beat everything.
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Stops around mid Freeza saga for me, but people had him way past that in the other thread. Reasoning for me is that Gai never surpassed Goku's island punching feat which barely hurt Freeza.

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wolffanghameha
Dec 30 2014, 09:57 PM
Stops around mid Freeza saga for me, but people had him way past that in the other thread. Reasoning for me is that Gai never surpassed Goku's island punching feat which barely hurt Freeza.
What do you mean not seen anybody post scans of that, when Goku kicks him and he smashes in to an island?(found it while typing)

'Cause given the size of those trees, not a very big island plus that's probably more a feat of how powerful flight is if anything not physical strength.

Fairly inconsistent anyway when does anything like that happen often? It's not some casual thing like how Gai create massive shockwaves just by punching.

Not to mention Namek is a fairly dead planet IIRC.
Stands to reason that the Genki within a planet serves to make it more durable so if there's not a lot of Genki on Namek the planet should be weaker overall right?

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Those islands should have larger radiuses then mountains.

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Fairly inconsistent anyway when does anything like that happen often? It's not some casual thing like how Gai create massive shockwaves just by punching.
Actually goku displayed casual mountain level durability not long before that scene. And look at the size of the trees compared to what was destroyed. The area frieza was sent through was huge. Honestly I still idk if I would call it an actual island though. More like multiple mountains he went through

gohan was also sent through two mountains in the cell games.

goku hit vegeta through two rock pillars and into mountain in the saiyan saga

Zarbon made a pretty big crater when he threw vegeta into the ground

Gotenks hit super buu through a portion of a city too. Not just in the air I mean through a lot of the buildings and stuff

And finally, of course, we have the crater that gotenks made when hit super buu

Then we have mountains flying up in the air in battle of gods lol
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Those islands should have larger radiuses then mountains.
...how? Those trees were never shown to be abnormally huge, that's a rocky hill not a mountain.

It still doesn't compare to the massive destruction Gai can cause, Hirudora sent a massive shockwave all the way over to the island turtle it had a huge AOE.


Like I said it doesn't happen often, certainly not in the lower levels and certainly not in Dragon Ball.
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Dec 30 2014, 09:55 PM
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Dec 30 2014, 08:28 PM
So what's going on now?

His punch isn't too impressive as I already pointed out so is there a consensus on where he stops?

It looks like he gets up to Raditz at most
How about we use the kind of scaling logic you use?

Gai's punch > any punch in DB
DB punches hurt DB characters < Gai's punch so DB character = dead

So that means if he used KHH by scaling he'd be >>>>>>> DB

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If DB characters don't need energy attacks to beat each other then why the hell should Gai?
Stop with the bias because it's just stupid it doesn't matter how much you like DB/DBZ/GT they don't beat everything.
You so sound upset(not my fault Gai is weaksauce)

I already have proven his punch won't even f***ing phaze 23rd Goku (the one with moon lvl durability)

He'd break his fists on Goku

So unless Gai has something other than that crater punch he's not scratching Goku at all get over it

The crater attack is not bypassing his durability

Db characters are >>>>>>>>>>> Gai tho lol

Bias? I've already proven why Gai doesn't get far in DB he gets torn apart by fodder you need to realize sure Db doesn't beat everything I never said they did but other characters like Gai are completely f***ing fodder compared to DB
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