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SSJ3 Grade 3 Goku (EoZ) vs Gohan (EoZ)
Topic Started: Dec 20 2014, 09:37 PM (695 Views)
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Gohan stands in front of Goku while Goku blasts him with his most powerful attack. If Gohan survives, the battle is over. Does he?
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Gohan would survive still. Little damage, maybe, but I don't think its quite enough.
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End of Z Goku is a real conundrum right now due to all the new material that's being released currently. According to Battle of Gods, all of that "I'm stronger than my fusion from the previous arc" Super Saiyan God power is now held in Base Goku, effectively making him, well, stronger than Super Saiyan Vegetto, and at least stronger than Gohan-Boo by miles.

If he got even stronger than that, which this new movie and logic would dictate, then this is a horribly one-sided affair.
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Out of curiosity, would Grade 3's ki attacks be any different from a regular SSJ's? I realise that their ki increases, somehow, but isn't it just bloating their muscles with ki? I don't really see how that would increase the power of their ki attacks.
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Disregarding Battle of Gods I still have Gohan a good amount stronger than EoZ SSJ3 Goku. I never thought of Ultimate Gohan as thousands of times stronger than Goku tho, so I say Goku's most powerful attack could maybe kill Gohan.
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Dec 20 2014, 10:34 PM
Out of curiosity, would Grade 3's ki attacks be any different from a regular SSJ's? I realise that their ki increases, somehow, but isn't it just bloating their muscles with ki? I don't really see how that would increase the power of their ki attacks.
What would they do with all of that power if not?
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This is a funny thread.

Goku SSJ3 (Buu): 1
Gotenks SSJ Post: 1.50
SSJ2: 3
SSJ3: 12

Ultimately s***ty Gohan: 15
Boohan: 25

Vegetto SSJ [Boo]: 100

BoG

Goku SSJ3 18

Vegetto SSJ: 1,800
SSJ3: 28,800

Beerus Heavily Suppressed: 30,000
Full Power: 300,000

Whiss: 450,000

Goku SSJG: 180,000
Goku SSJ Post God: 144,000

EOZ

Goku Base: 2,880
SSJ Post God: 144,000

Goku in base is over one hundred times stronger then Boohan, so he lol stomps him and vegetto at the same time.
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Furthermore, it should be clear that this topic is based only the manga and ignores BoG and the grey area it exists in right now.

And yes, I already know your incorrect opinion on how Gotenks/Gohan should be placed. There's no need for you to respond to this thread at all.
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Ah, if it ignores Movie 14, then I change my answer. Even Grade 3 couldn't help Goku put a scuff on Gohan's gi.
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I would place SSJ3 Grade 3 Goku (with a 3 times Kamehameha boost on top of that) as being maybe a little bit above EoZ Gohan (who I believe became substantially weaker since the Boo Arc), but a little bit below Boo Arc Gohan.

Also, I should have mentioned the whole ignoring BoG thing in the topic, but I wasn't even considering BoG when I started the topic. Sorry about that.
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Dec 20 2014, 10:34 PM
Out of curiosity, would Grade 3's ki attacks be any different from a regular SSJ's? I realise that their ki increases, somehow, but isn't it just bloating their muscles with ki? I don't really see how that would increase the power of their ki attacks.
If that were the case, then Vegeta would be a fool for using the FF on Cell in his Grade 2 state no?

@OT: Goku can pull something off so I believe though I wouldn't rule out Gohan surviving.
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Goku would destroy him out of existence. Gohan isn't that stronger than Goku, considering the fact that Goku base is Ssjin3 tier. BOG itself has this.
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I would place SSJ3 Grade 3 Goku (with a 3 times Kamehameha boost on top of that) as being maybe a little bit above EoZ Gohan (who I believe became substantially weaker since the Boo Arc), but a little bit below Boo Arc Gohan.

Also, I should have mentioned the whole ignoring BoG thing in the topic, but I wasn't even considering BoG when I started the topic. Sorry about that.
When was that stated or even hinted at? Remember that Gohan was brought far beyond his natural limits, and disregarding any Movie 14 shenanigans, Gohan's regular natural limit was monstrously higher than Goku's. Even if Gohan got weaker at the end of the manga, going down so far that he would be susceptible to Goku's tricks doesn't seem likely.
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I Have SSJ3 Goku(EoZ) =< SSJ3 Gotenks
With Grade 3,Gohan Stands No Chance To Survive Against Goku.
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Here's the thing, you can't have Goku being at his God Level or whatever at EOZ unless you have Oob even higher than Kid Boo. Goku basically wanted to fight the reincarnation of Kid Boo and wanted to do so at the very start when both he and his opponent were at their maximum level. Not only does Oob actually cause Goku to struggle but Goku is happy in what he gets. Oob lived up to his expectation and the main point he makes is being able to help Oob to harness that great power and not just get stronger.

Seriously, Gohan is going to slaughter his father unless you think Oob was even stronger than Kid Boo and it doesn't really support that.
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