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Ssj vegeta and android 18/17
Topic Started: Dec 20 2014, 04:22 PM (562 Views)
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How much stronger was ssj grade 1 vegeta after his first visit to the rosat than android 17/18?
Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Dec 20 2014, 04:23 PM.
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17: 100
Piccolo: 105
Imperfect Cell: 300
16: 300
Semi Cell: 600-700
SSJ Vegeta: 600
SSJ Gr2 Vegeta: 1200

I see it being like that. Imperfect Cell could be closer to Piccolo which would reduce the gap.
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Possibly as strong as, or stronger than, initial Semi-Perfect Cell, who one shot #16. So much stronger.
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Am I forgetting something? Did something happen or was something said that suggested he was that strong? And how do you know grade 2 doubles power?
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Dec 20 2014, 04:33 PM
Am I forgetting something? Did something happen or was something said that suggested he was that strong? And how do you know grade 2 doubles power?
Trunks was surprised that Vegeta used SSJ Gr2 so early, implying he thought his SSJ form would be a good matchup for Cell.

I don't know, but it makes sense considering the gaps shown. Semi Cell had a major power up that even impressed Vegeta, yet Vegeta still stomped him. There shpuld be a lot of room there imo.
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Ssj3vegito96
Dec 20 2014, 04:33 PM
Am I forgetting something? Did something happen or was something said that suggested he was that strong? And how do you know grade 2 doubles power?
Trunks was surprised Vegeta was going to use grade 2 straight away, implying regular Super Saiyan Vegeta must have been able to at least put up a good fight against initial Semi-Cell
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Dec 20 2014, 04:30 PM
17: 100
Piccolo: 105
Imperfect Cell: 300
16: 300
Semi Cell: 600-700
SSJ Vegeta: 600
SSJ Gr2 Vegeta: 1200

I see it being like that. Imperfect Cell could be closer to Piccolo which would reduce the gap.
This gap is accurate to me.
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Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans

Trunks was surprised that Vegeta decided to use Grade II at the start of the battle. This strongly implies that SSJ Vegeta is around Initial Semi-Perfect Cell at least.

SSJG2 Vegeta > FP Semi-Perfect Cell >> Initial Semi-Perfect Cell ~ SSJ Vegeta >> #16 >>> Piccolo = 17
We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.
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Vegeta (post-RoSaT)
--base – 3.2
--Super Saiyan – 16 (5x Base)
--Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 27.2 (70% increase)

2nd Stage Cell
--suppressed – 15
--full power – 20

Artificial Human #17 – 5.5
Artificial Human #18 – 5

That's how I figure the gaps to be, more or less.
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I haven't done a PL list in ages so Imma make a guess here. The chain we had between the Vegeta VS 18 fight and the Vegeta VS Cell fight was as follows...

SSJ Vegeta Post ~ Semi Cell Supressed >> Imp Cell Post ~ No. 16 > Piccolo's amped blast >> Piccolo >= #17 > #18 > Imp Cell Pre > SSJ Vegeta Pre

Based on that, I roughly have...

SSJ Vegeta Pre: 100
Post: 1000

Piccolo: 160
Blast: 500-600

#18: 120-130
#17: 140-150
#16: 700

Imp Cell Pre: 107
Post: 750
Semi Cell: 1000
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Semi Perfect Cell(Full-Power) > >SSJ Vegeta(Post 1st RoSaT) > > Semi Perfect Cell(Supressed) >>>> Imperfect Cell(Post) >/= Android 16 >>>> Androids 17 & 18
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Full-Power Semi Cell:18
SSJ Vegeta(Post RoSaT):15
Supressed Semi Cell:12
Imperfect Cell:6.5
Android 16:6.475
Android 17&18:1.8
So A 8.3333333x Gap To Me
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