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FP SSJ4 Goku(Bebi-Arc) Vs SSJG Goku(BoG); Who Wins?
Topic Started: Dec 15 2014, 01:00 AM (608 Views)
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I Have SSJ4 Goku 90% Of BoG SSJG Goku,So It Would Be A Good Fight,But The BoG Goku Would Win IMO
BoG Goku Can Use SSjG For Unlimited Time
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Super Vegetto [Boo] <=> SSJin4 Goku Baby Arc

After those two strongest people merge, they become the greatest master in the universe, perhaps even stronger than Super Saiyan 4 (Goku) according to the anime comics for Dragon Ball GT: A Hero's Legacy (which was released at a time where Goku was the only Super Saiyan 4 in the series).

Further-more, Goku makes the statement that even Fusing with Vegeta wouldn't be enough to defeat a heavily suppressed Beerus. Since Vegetto is the only canonical Fusion, it's only logical one should not twist the statement into trying to make it a reference towards Gogeta. However, Goku as a Super Saiyan God at 80% power though he could defeat Beerus.

Another stepping stone is the fact Goku and Vegeta are heavily implied to have surpassed Gotenks & Ultimate Gohan, due to feats, statements and implications.

Whiss: 52,500
Beerus Full Power: 35,000
Goku Super Saiyan God Full Power: 21,000
Goku Super Saiyan Post God: 18,900
Goku Super Saiyan God 80% Power: 16,800
Beerus Heavily Suppressed [10% Power]: 3,500
Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto [BoG]: 3,200
Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto [Boo]: 800
Super Vegetto [BoG]: 400
Super Vegetto [Boo]: 100
Goku Super Saiyan 4 [Baby Arc]: 100
Base Vegetto [BoG]: 8
Base Vegetto [Boo]: 2
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Beerus absolutely destroys him.
Edited by myst1c, Dec 15 2014, 03:34 AM.
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Well most people have beerus at around baby saga ssj4 goku and beerus>ssjg goku so....
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You'd be surprised how many people have Super Saiyan God Goku and Beerus stronger than the top tiers of GT like Super Yi Xing Long and Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta.

Myself, I don't see Godku making it past GT Goku here, but whatever. There isn't too much to compare the two, so I don't get on people about it unless they're snobs.
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What about feats? Let's not forget ssj1 goku punched super 17 across the planet and he was barely even fazed by it. Or could ssj god goku do the same to someone?
Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Dec 15 2014, 07:17 AM.
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Dec 15 2014, 07:14 AM
What about feats? Let's not forget ssj1 goku punched super 17 across the planet and he was barely even fazed by it. Or could ssj god goku do the same to someone?
Well, see, we don't know. Didn't Toriyama specify that he didn't want cities destroyed in Movie 14, so Toei decided to send Godku and Beerus into the woodland area and let them go at it there? That could be why we don't see any of the city trashed while the woods got mutilated.

I didn't really see anything too impressive in the last movie.
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Feats? Goku got cut by glass sooooo........

Vegito is perhaps greater than Ssjin4 Goku from Baby Arc. Goku and Vegeta trained their asses in 5 years and they're fusion should be much stronger than Boo Arc and was stated to be trash compare to Beerus while Ssjin God Goku went to toe and toe against him.
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Dec 15 2014, 11:08 AM
Feats? Goku got cut by glass sooooo........
And that somehow negates everything else from the series?
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It means that we shouldn't take GT's feats just like Z feats as well if its not inconsitent at all.
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Dec 15 2014, 11:21 AM
It means that we shouldn't take GT's feats just like Z feats as well if its not inconsitent at all.
You're saying we should pick and choose what we want, basically?
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If there's no contradiction, inconsities like lifting, speed etc., AT used powet scalling not feat to prove it 90% in the series.
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I don't really understand what this matters to the actual comparison. If you want to claim GT's feats are inconsistent, you're welcome to. Toei as a company produced inconsistent anime even with Z, so it's no new revelation. Movie 14 lacks in the feats department as well, so there's still not very much to compare them.

I also don't take that Hero's Legacy excerpt to mean Super Saiyan Vegetto (Boo arc) ~ Super Saiyan 4 Goku (Baby arc). I take it to mean a comparison of Potara and Super Saiyan 4 itself. I would rather follow what happened in the show itself than a guidebook, just as I'd follow the manga over a guidebook.
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I have FP SSJ4 Goku Baby Arc > Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta = Beerus > SSJ4 Goku Baby Arc > SSJG Goku > SSJ3 Vegito BOG

Therefore FPSSJ4 Goku would be more than enough to crush SSJG Goku.
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The Daizenshuu states the Potara is like Goku times Vegeta, and this doesn't correlate with what 'A Hero's Legacy' says. So it has to mean raw strength.
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