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Prove Yakon < Freeza
Topic Started: Dec 14 2014, 02:09 AM (597 Views)
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East Kaioshin was an idiot in a terribly written part of the series.

Oh, and Yakon's guidebook entry doesn't specify strength, so...

I think that about sums it up.
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East Kaioshin states that he can defeat Frieza, then he was afraid of Yakon and Kaioshin wanted everyone to team up on him, yet Base Kakarrot was enough not to take him seriously and even after his Gi was cut, Kakarrot still didn't take him seriously and only went SS to show Yakon that he had a source of light if he needed it.
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Dec 14 2014, 02:16 AM
East Kaioshin states that he can defeat Frieza, then he was afraid of Yakon and Kaioshin wanted everyone to team up on him, yet Base Kakarrot was enough not to take him seriously and even after his Gi was cut, Kakarrot still didn't take him seriously and only went SS to show Yakon that he had a source of light if he needed it.
Goku didn't take him seriously, but Gohan did. He offered to interfere so that Goku wouldn't have to go SSJ
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Yep, which pretty much shows that Kakarrot's Base wasn't at Full Power.
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Dec 14 2014, 04:50 PM
Yep, which pretty much shows that Kakarrot's Base wasn't at Full Power.
If it wasn't, Gohan wouldn't have gotten so worried
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Well, he hadn't seen his Fathers Full Power yet, so Gohan doesn't know how much more powerful his Father is compared to himself.
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Dec 14 2014, 08:52 PM
Well, he hadn't seen his Fathers Full Power yet, so Gohan doesn't know how much more powerful his Father is compared to himself.
He knew Goku had gotten stronger since the Cell Games, that's enough to give Goku's base a reasonable boost, and Gohan is inconfident that Goku can beat Yakon without SSJ
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But wouldn't that just show that Gohan knew his Father increased, but wasn't sure how much more powerful he actually was?

By this point the roles are reversed, Gohan is now trash compared to his Father.
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That was due to Gohan getting weaker though, not because of some massive leap in Goku's strength, as he's not that much stronger than Cell Games Gohan in the Boo Saga.
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Dec 14 2014, 11:09 PM
That was due to Gohan getting weaker though, not because of some massive leap in Goku's strength, as he's not that much stronger than Cell Games Gohan in the Boo Saga.
Cell Games:
Goku: 50
Gohan: 60
SSJ Goku: 2,500
SSJ Gohan: 3,000
SSJ Gohan (Angry): 3,500
SSJ2 Gohan: 7,000

Buu Saga:
Gohan: 50
Goku: 75
SSJ Gohan: 2,500
SSJ Goku: 3,750
SSJ2 Gohan: 5,000
SSJ2 Goku: 7,500

That's a pretty large gap, even from a minimalistic approach.
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Dec 14 2014, 11:09 PM
That was due to Gohan getting weaker though, not because of some massive leap in Goku's strength, as he's not that much stronger than Cell Games Gohan in the Boo Saga.
I know... the second part was just me being Captain Obvious. :p
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Dec 16 2014, 12:51 AM
lazerbem
Dec 14 2014, 11:09 PM
That was due to Gohan getting weaker though, not because of some massive leap in Goku's strength, as he's not that much stronger than Cell Games Gohan in the Boo Saga.
Cell Games:
Goku: 50
Gohan: 60
SSJ Goku: 2,500
SSJ Gohan: 3,000
SSJ Gohan (Angry): 3,500
SSJ2 Gohan: 7,000

Buu Saga:
Gohan: 50
Goku: 75
SSJ Gohan: 2,500
SSJ Goku: 3,750
SSJ2 Gohan: 5,000
SSJ2 Goku: 7,500

That's a pretty large gap, even from a minimalistic approach.
Nice numbers, too bad they make no sense what so ever and aren't based on anything.

Piccolo confused Majin Vegeta's power with Kid SSJ2 Gohan and Majin Vegeta only brings up surpassing Kid Gohan when Goku uses true SSJ2, not his burst against Yakon, which in and of itself was enough to make Vegeta have a mid life crisis, yet Vegeta at this point thinks he's hot s*** enough to take on Gohan, albeit somewhat weakened(he was shocked by just how weak Gohan was). There's no large gap between Cell Games Gohan and Boo Saga Goku.

Another thing is that Cell Games Gohan is a ton stronger than Cell Games Goku. When Cell Games Goku gets hit by Cell, he feels it, the hits are hurting him and he doesn't want to take any hits. When Gohan gets hit, it leaves a couple of scratches and Gohan comes back for more with a :l face on
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