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Freeza Arc retconed?; read this
Topic Started: Dec 12 2014, 05:14 PM (589 Views)
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So it seems like Freeza Arc was retconed like power ups, busting attacks, speeds feats etc., Freeza's for was like a God that time, it has 4 stages but each of it has massive power up and most of the fans say that Yakon is stronger than Freeza's form +except final form) which is really retconed. Yakon is just a monster while Freeza is a Galactic Overlord and got surpassed easily by new characters. What do ya think?
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Doesn't have to be retconned. Who has charted every corner of every galaxy? It's likely that Babidi located his minions in remote areas of lesser known galaxies.

In fact, IIRC, Yakon lived in a galaxy without light.... which is stupid because that is his species's main source of food....
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First of all, nothing in dbz has ever been retconned. Not officially at least

Secondly, so you're saying, since it's hard to believe someone like yakon who's "just a monster" is stronger than frieza, the whole frieza arc was retconned? No. That's not how it works
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Shounen power scaling. Take it or leave it.

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Dec 12 2014, 08:29 PM
First of all, nothing in dbz has ever been retconned. Not officially at least

Secondly, so you're saying, since it's hard to believe someone like yakon who's "just a monster" is stronger than frieza, the whole frieza arc was retconned? No. That's not how it works
Finally! Someone else isn't ignoring the fact that a retcon has never been officially stated, most people ignore that and act like AT has gone on record and said so. At least I know I'm not the only one on this.

As for the Topic it's self: I agree, just because we haven't heard of or seen someone like Yakon, or anyone else that could be stronger than Frieza doesn't mean it was retconned.
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Dec 12 2014, 05:25 PM
Doesn't have to be retconned. Who has charted every corner of every galaxy? It's likely that Babidi located his minions in remote areas of lesser known galaxies.

In fact, IIRC, Yakon lived in a galaxy without light.... which is stupid because that is his species's main source of food....
Who says Yakon eats nothing but light? Those teeth look too sharp to just be for territorial disputes. Also, he has functional eyes, so there's some light at least(ocassional volcanic eruptions?)

It could just be that he was weak, but in a galaxy with light, it's like jumping him up on crack
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Or alternately, and here's how I explain things, without the Cold Family there was a universal power vacuum. There was no one at the top to commit mass genocides and to hamper potential. So, without Frieza to lord over the universe, other fighters were free to fight and conquer and become more powerful. Otherwise I can't think of a reason that the Machine Mutants, all being as tough as your average Majin Buu, wouldn't be ruling the universe.

Kinda like a bear in a forest. If a hunter comes in a shoots a bear that happens to be at the top of that food chain and leaves the territory wide open, other predators will try and take over. Wolves, Pumas, other bears, whatever.
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Dec 12 2014, 10:35 PM
Or alternately, and here's how I explain things, without the Cold Family there was a universal power vacuum. There was no one at the top to commit mass genocides and to hamper potential. So, without Frieza to lord over the universe, other fighters were free to fight and conquer and become more powerful. Otherwise I can't think of a reason that the Machine Mutants, all being as tough as your average Majin Buu, wouldn't be ruling the universe.

Kinda like a bear in a forest. If a hunter comes in a shoots a bear that happens to be at the top of that food chain and leaves the territory wide open, other predators will try and take over. Wolves, Pumas, other bears, whatever.
The Machine Mutants were built, it's not impossible to say they could simply have been created after Freeza.

And the problem with that analogy is that the power vacuum is only there because none of those could have beaten the bear or couldn't have done so without severe risk. Yakon would have had no risk from Freeza, neither would Pocus.

That being said, Yakon has an explanation besides that. He doesn't seem to aspire to much in life, it's possible his race doesn't have spacefaring technology and if they do, they don't care.
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My guess is that they were originally weaker but the Majin boost was substantial enough.
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