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Gremmy vs Yamamoto
Topic Started: Dec 8 2014, 05:58 PM (734 Views)
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No restrictions, Yamamoto is post-timeskip, but with both arms, who wins?
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"I am the bone of my sword."

The only thing stopping Gremmy from imagining that Yamamoto's brain as a cookie is nothing short of PIS and CIS. Gremmy's Imagination powers are so inconsistent its revolting. At one points he's changing bones to cookies, apparently just killed off the two Vizards just by imagining it, creates and destroys life on a whim. He created a being that could make you forget about them. Creates pockets of galaxies to throw people in and what not and a practically complete form of healing just by sheer imagination.

And I'd like to point out that the Gremmy who was doing all of this, was in short an imagination of the real Gremmy's brain. In short...the imagination of Gremmy's brain, could imagine up up the previous person who wiped people's memories of him.

Then later on its like, lol no he can't do s***, here's a few bullets and a meteor, oh no I'm failing I can't imagine this.
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Gremmy's power is limited. Sure he killed off two Visoreds, but we have no idea how, and furthermore, they were already half-dead. He was able to change Yachiru's bones to cookies, because she's a lieutenant and no match for a powerful Sternritter.

His imagination power is not infinite; he needed to double it just to create a meteor and he needed to multiply by it ~seven times to create that space void.

Oh, and he admitted Kenpachi was more powerful than he was.
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Yama wins (assuming both are IC). One slash should end it. Not to mention that Gremmy nearly killed himself (I think twice) and needed Kenpachi to stop him from imagining himself dead. And even then, technically Gremmy still killed himself.
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Gremmy's power is limited. Sure he killed off two Visoreds, but we have no idea how, and furthermore, they were already half-dead. He was able to change Yachiru's bones to cookies, because she's a lieutenant and no match for a powerful Sternritter.

His imagination power is not infinite; he needed to double it just to create a meteor and he needed to multiply by it ~seven times to create that space void.

Oh, and he admitted Kenpachi was more powerful than he was.
Yeah based on that I'd say Yama's Reiatsu would just overpower his completely.

I'm sure at this point Kenpachi > Yama but not > Yama's Bankai


I doubt he could contend with Yama's speed either he could hardly imagine things happening to him if he has no visual contact with him he's limited by how fast his brain can process things as well as it's capacity to do so.
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Transcendent

IIRC, Base Kenpachi was a Transcendent. That actually make sense how could Kenpachi destroy that huge meteor in Shikai.

Yamamoto gets downed by Gremmy imo.
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Dec 9 2014, 05:35 PM
IIRC, Base Kenpachi was a Transcendent. That actually make sense how could Kenpachi destroy that huge meteor in Shikai.

Yamamoto gets downed by Gremmy imo.
No he wasn't. If you're referring to the squad 11 guys not sensing his energy before the fight that was a probably red herring (or he probably learned to control his power now), especially considering that they were sensing his energy throughout the fight from start to finish.

Not to mention that Ichigo is probably even stronger than Kenpachi now and he could be also be sensed by others.
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Dec 9 2014, 05:35 PM
IIRC, Base Kenpachi was a Transcendent. That actually make sense how could Kenpachi destroy that huge meteor in Shikai.

Yamamoto gets downed by Gremmy imo.
No he wasn't. If you're referring to the squad 11 guys not sensing his energy before the fight that was a probably red herring (or he probably learned to control his power now), especially considering that they were sensing his energy throughout the fight from start to finish.

Not to mention that Ichigo is probably even stronger than Kenpachi now and he could be also be sensed by others.
They only sensed him after Gremmy brought up the place for them to fight. Maybe it's like a broadcast of some sort.

Where? I don't remember anyone sensing current Ichigo.
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Being transcendent doesn't require being at or above X level of power it's a state of being, Aizen became a supreme being far above anyone else at the time.

The only people who can match that are possibly the Soul King and Ichigo now, Juha maybe but I doubt it it's not something you can do by weightlifting or whatever a base Shinigami couldn't really achieve it.
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Dec 9 2014, 07:06 PM
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Dec 9 2014, 06:59 PM
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Dec 9 2014, 05:35 PM
IIRC, Base Kenpachi was a Transcendent. That actually make sense how could Kenpachi destroy that huge meteor in Shikai.

Yamamoto gets downed by Gremmy imo.
No he wasn't. If you're referring to the squad 11 guys not sensing his energy before the fight that was a probably red herring (or he probably learned to control his power now), especially considering that they were sensing his energy throughout the fight from start to finish.

Not to mention that Ichigo is probably even stronger than Kenpachi now and he could be also be sensed by others.
They only sensed him after Gremmy brought up the place for them to fight. Maybe it's like a broadcast of some sort.
I doubt sensing reiastu works that way. Especially if said reiastu belongs to a being supposedly so powerful he's practically another dimension above others due to being a different state of being.
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Where? I don't remember anyone sensing current Ichigo.


Chapter 581"The Hero" page 12 onward.

Rukia and Byakuya are racing to help Kenpachi in his time of need, sensing his reiastu at the area of the attack. Rukia stops as if something's amiss. She looks up at the sky.

Byakuya: What is it Rukia?

Rukia: Can you feel that Ni-sama?

Cut to a portal opening to an aerial view of the Vandereich.

Something in the distance is speeding towards the Shakonmaku* (soul membrane) at record pace. A random shingaimi, Ikkaku, and Renji look up at the sight overhead possibly pondering, "What is that lone, daring, heroic figure in the sky? Is it a bird? Could it be a plane?"

Rukia:This Reaistu!!!

Cue badass entrance and cut to it being subverted with an accidental pratfall.

Cut to Ichigo casually blitzing the Bambrigade like a boss, essentially shaking off the previous page of comic relief without trouble.

Ichigo and Kenpachi banter for a bit and Ichigo closes the chapter saying "I'm here to save you."

EDIT: Steve is right. Being a transcendent being isn't merely being a certain level of power, one has to break the limitations of other beings entirely (shinigami, hollows, humans etc.).
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