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Spider-Man vs Static Shock; This one is for you Lazer!
Topic Started: Dec 6 2014, 05:28 PM (1,413 Views)
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It's a teen super hero showdown! Super Hero Static Shock, Virgil Hawkins! Vs The Spectacular Spider-Man, Peter Parker! In an all out war in the streets of metropolis. Now let's meet the contenders.

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Rules
No outside assistance. The Justice League & Titans and the Avengers & Outsiders are not permitted to get involved in any capacity. In addition, Gear has no communication with Static for the duration of the match.

Regulations
- In Character, neither fighter has any particular interest in killing the other per usual.
- These'll be Toon Versions supplemented by Comics (Details in unit dossiers)
- Standard Equipment Only

Who takes the win?
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Static Shock is a lot like Electro, except more verstaile, but less powerful from what I see(Spectacular Electro evaporated a pool when he landed in it and can transfer his electricity through wood, both things that Static cannot do). However, I can still see Static doing damage and Peter around with his taser punches and what not. But his durability should keep him in the game long enough to understand Static's abilities.

Where they fight is important, because Spider-Man has defeated Electro in the cartoon quite a lot by using the environment(car tires, pool water, dropping an object too big for him to lift on him). Another question is Static's speed. I'm not sure what his best showings are for that, but if like Electro he has human reactions, his chances of hitting Spider-Man are cut down drastically.

BTW, Spectacular started off somewhere in the one ton range in the show, but as the show progresses to his final brawl with Tombstone, it's easy to see the difference in power. I personally have him cap out at around 6-7 tons, as that is Tombstone's max in the comics and it makes sense in general.
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You know it's variable. He seems to get tagged by the concessional normal class guy early on, but in later seasons he's able to solo Batman Beyond on his home turf, and he's gotten the jump on the Justice League before too (Mind control episode or something.) He speed blitzed Hawkgirl once and kept even pace with the Flash, while Flash was running on water. I think GL was the only one that was able to handle him. So his high end feats put him... I dunno who would translate well. Quicksilver in the air (Movement Speed w/ Saucer), Kraven-ish reflexes? Though just re-watching the episode here I have a feeling that he'd be about as fast or a bit faster than Web Slinging Spidey.
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Taking down Beyond isn't anything special, Tim Drake(Joker using his body) wiped the floor with him.

As for his feats with the JL, the problem is that the writers admit that Superman and the Flash are constantly nerfed in order to let the others have a day in the limelight. Superman once got tased by Deadshot, that's how bad it was.

Anyway, which Kraven do you mean? Do you mean Spectacular Kraven? Do you mean Lion Man Kraven? Or do you mean 616 Kraven?

First option puts him in a very lacking position and liable to getting his attacks dodged and taken down via enviroment(though Kraven is no slouch)
Second option should make him able to consistently tag Spider-Man
Third option is the same as the second
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I've noticed that DCAU Supes seems to have a certain weakness to electricity.

As far as Kraven. I dunno, closer to whichever one was in the "Spider-Man the Animated series" from the 90s? I guess that'd be 616-ish. I dunno, but a lot of Statics fights are all against other Metahumans and Super Humans, even ones that manipulate elements at a large scale. I dunno, he's pretty tough to quantify formally. Maybe Magneto-esque over all? I feel like Static could take the vast majority of the X-Men like Parker did too.
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Parker really didn't though. He slapped Wolverine away and webbed up Rogue, Nightcrawler and Colossus, but it wasn't like he beat them. He stalled them long enough to escape, kind of like what he did to Colossus and some other mutant. He got his a*** kicked, but he was smart enough to make them fight each other until they shook off their possession.

As for Kraven, no, in 616, the guy was capable of fighting a blood lusted Spider-Man and breaking his arm. Granted, Spider-Man broke his sternum with a single kick, but Kraven was trying to die. Kraven in the 616 is a badass who can take down rhinos with a single punch and paralyze someone for life with a nerve strike. He's not the strongest or fastest, but being just as old as Captain America plus having lots of practice hunting makes this a non-issue, along with his prep time(he's slightly below Ock, Goblin, or Mysterio in that department)

As for Static being Magneto esque, if so, he stomps if he's got some distance from Spider-Man. This is based off of Magneto lifting a city and other giant stuff like that, if Static can do that, Spider-Man is finished. If you mean his power set is similar but his power level isn't, then Spider-Man can win
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Adult Static seems to be revered and feared at that level or beyond. I think Shock Static seems to be somewhere closer to... well he's certainly tougher than Electro, not quite as tough as Magneto... hmm... he's taken multi-story robots and titanic shadow creatures... the scale thing... I dunno, this is a tough fight.
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He's tougher than Electro but can't put his electricity through wood?
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I said "tougher" not "a better conductor"
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They're kind of related. Electro is more powerful in that case, or he's more skilled, which I highly doubt considering that Spectacular Electro is an absolute moron in fighting intelligence
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He's a very skilled manipulator of electricity. Fighting intelligence, not so much. He's a scientist, not a martial artist. That makes perfect sense. Though, Static's got a pretty good handle on the magnetite thing too, much better than Electro I'd say. So maybe his powers are a bit more split.
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He's a very skilled manipulator of electricity. Fighting intelligence, not so much. He's a scientist, not a martial artist. That makes perfect sense. Though, Static's got a pretty good handle on the magnetite thing too, much better than Electro I'd say. So maybe his powers are a bit more split.
What's the first three sentences talking about? Electro or Static? Because Electro in the cartoon and comics have never really been too smart(a handyman though).

And yeah, he's got the magnet thing, but Static also has problems with water, according to wikipedia, yet Electro was doing just fine with water in his second appearance.
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The water thing is kinda debatable. It just causes a brief short out, which he immediately rectifies with a downed power-line or even one of his Zap Caps. It doesn't seem to be a big deal for Static in his Comic appearances and in Young Justice, so I think it was an exclusive "Shock" weakness, and an inconsistent one at that.

And either way, Electro isn't a warrior, he has no reason to have "Fighting intelligence" to be skilled in electro-kinesis. He can be great at it and still be lousy in a fight. Static's a much better fighter (Proven track record) and is a scientific prodigy (Again, given the exposition from the three classroom scenes in the series) so I'm sure that contributes too.
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I never claimed Electro was effective(he teamkills a lot), but he does seem to have more power, at least after getting some tips from Doc Ock.

End point is that Spider-Man can survive Electro's blasts, I think he can push through the pain to land that one punch he needs
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I dunno, Static puts up one hell of a barrier. Stronger than I've seen electro put up. And he did hang with Green Lantern. And GL, especially mind controlled ones, don't pull punches.
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