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Orochimaru vs Mayuri
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Orochimaru vs Mayuri
Topic Started: Dec 3 2014, 10:15 PM (1,009 Views)
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Before i start, i wanna say i have no knowledge in Mayuri's part since i haven't watch Bleach(yet) but i saw this debate in countless forums so i wanted to see who wins here.

Conditions for the battle:
- Orochimaru is at FP with Zetsu body, all of his jutsu can be used.
- Imperfect Edo Tensei allowed.
- Anime feats can be used.
- Mayuri goes all out, i might change this if it's a stomp in his favor.

If Oro loses to badly make him use perfected edo.

Winner?
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...I'm inclined to say Oro because of Edo Tensei, perfected or not but it's really hard to say Mayuri has basically no strength or speed feats he basically just owns everyone by already having beat them with poison or something at the start of the fight.


I think if Oro kept his distance and used Edo's he'd win easily but if he tried to go in for the kill he'd get drugged.
Even if he was immune to Mayuri's Bankai's poison there's no way he could resist the Superhuman Drug or whatever it's called.


He'd win with that for sure but only if he got the chance to use it.

Being a Captain he should be a master swordsman and be fairly fast but on physical terms that's all we know about him.
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Wait, wait, wait. Mayuri doesn't have any feats? No weapons? No armor? No special attacks? The f*** am I supposed to do my usual side by side?
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Dec 4 2014, 01:57 PM
Wait, wait, wait. Mayuri doesn't have any feats? No weapons? No armor? No special attacks? The f*** am I supposed to do my usual side by side?
He has nothing really usable in a battle like tanking attacks or heavy attacks he just has poison/drugs and intelligence.

Most of the time he "fights" he just kind of stands there talking smack and the other guy doesn't realize they're already dying lol.


Well no I guess for durability his feats are...well no again, he can regrow his limbs and stuff like that but as for damage he can shake off it's unclear. He can also liquify himself to escape fights but only once a day or something.

He has a very similar body to Orochimaru really but far less offensive techniques, practically the same guy only a "good" guy.
His energy reserves are unclear too.

This is the problem with having so many characters Kubo you can't develop them all...
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If Mayuri has no physical stats that are comparable to Orochimaru, even if he posseses poisson abilities and such it would be useless, Oro can use oral rebirth for more than 3 times in a fight and i doubt he will fall for the same trick 3 times in a row, and he does have the hokage to assist him as well.
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Dec 4 2014, 04:39 PM
If Mayuri has no physical stats that are comparable to Orochimaru, even if he posseses poisson abilities and such it would be useless, Oro can use oral rebirth for more than 3 times in a fight and i doubt he will fall for the same trick 3 times in a row, and he does have the hokage to assist him as well.
Can't really say if his poison would work or not really though, it's made of spiritual energy not chemicals so how would Oro be immune realistically?

But lets just say he is, he's not immune to drugs which we know because he received pain medication.

So he wouldn't be immune to the Superhuman Drug and wouldn't be able to do anything while under it's influence.
While affected by the drug a few seconds appears to last over 100 years for the victim as their sense of time is massively slowed down, Oro would go crazy before Mayuri even stabbed him or whatever and Oro would be so slow, to him, to do anything he'd have no way to defend himself or set up rebirth.


Also we don't know if his stats are comparable at all, he could be leagues ahead or not he's never really had a proper fight he just comes in and owns everyone
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Hmmm, either way this is kind of a bad match isn't it? Cool concept, maybe not QUITE a good time for it yet...
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Mayuri seems lieutenant level in terms of physical ability, possibly higher. Sanrei Uryu managed him pretty well at first, and he was probably about on the level of a lieutenant.

Furthermore, we've seen Mayuri gets screwed by Hitsugaya in bankai, and can only keep up with him in base via automatic reflexes.
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Dec 5 2014, 06:59 AM
Mayuri seems lieutenant level in terms of physical ability, possibly higher. Sanrei Uryu managed him pretty well at first, and he was probably about on the level of a lieutenant.

Furthermore, we've seen Mayuri gets screwed by Hitsugaya in bankai, and can only keep up with him in base via automatic reflexes.
Well to be a Captain you have to pass tests including combat, so to be a Captain he has to be above Lieutenant level.

As s*** as he is in the series Hitsugaya is supposed to be fairly strong "prodigy" and all that.

I agree Mayuri is probably the weakest physically though. Without his intelligence and poison he'd be nothing.
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If he only depends on inteligence and poisson then there's no way he could win this fight. Orochimaru is no push-over in inteligence as well and also posseses poisson's and great physical atrributes. Assuming Mayuri gets Oro one or two times he can use oral rebirth and then go to offense. I doubt he would get caught more than 3 times.
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Putting Oro against people who primarily use poison, unique or not, will give him the win in most scenarios.

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He literally can't win against the Superhuman Drug though.


And in Bleach Mayuri only has intelligence and poison, compared to other characters all of which are fairly strong compared to standard Naruto characters being weak in Bleach doesn't make him weak in Naruto by default.

He's easily more technologically brilliant than Oro as well as with medicine, Oro only really has the latter there.


Mayuri also has replacement organs so he can take fatal damage and recover it easily as well as replace any poisoned organs if needed though he wouldn't be easy to poison as he too is resistant.

Then there's his Bankai which Oro doesn't have much to fight with against, he'd need summons.


His poison is really debatable anyway he always changes the composition of it so no antidote besides his own can be found and no immunity besides his own works out, take that however you want but if drugs can affect Orochimaru, even if in a limited fashion it's not a stretch to assume a poison would have some affect. Especially one so powerful that it immediately starts breaking people's bodies down.

Regardless, the superhuman drug would definitely work.
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How exactly does this superhuman drug work? Couldn't Orochimaru use Oral Rebirth?
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Dec 7 2014, 11:11 AM
How exactly does this superhuman drug work? Couldn't Orochimaru use Oral Rebirth?
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If both were at their full power, Mayuri takes this fight with ease.
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Well i will watch Bleach sometime :) , but for now i'm interested to know what this "superhuman drug" is that Orochimaru can't counter.
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