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Prime Starscream vs Prime Airachnid
Topic Started: Dec 2 2014, 03:49 AM (279 Views)
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Airachnid has no webs this time and it's not an offguard shot

Bonus Rounds: Each one has toy powers behind them
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Lmao, even with webs this is functional spite. Starscream's a coward, but when he's battle ready he's handily gone head to head with the likes of Arcee and Optimus. Even onguard, Airachnid is a glass cannon. She can dish it out, but she's squishy. And slow in the air. The Air Commander of the Battle Fleet will take it to the skies, and missile barrage. Even Screamer knows better than that.
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Dec 2 2014, 04:07 AM
Lmao, even with webs this is functional spite. Starscream's a coward, but when he's battle ready he's handily gone head to head with the likes of Arcee and Optimus. Even onguard, Airachnid is a glass cannon. She can dish it out, but she's squishy. And slow in the air. The Air Commander of the Battle Fleet will take it to the skies, and missile barrage. Even Screamer knows better than that.
With the webs, Starscream was on the ground begging for mercy like a little b***. Sure, it was an offguard shot, but if he gets hit with the webs, he's done.

When did he ever go head to head with Optimus? I remember him hiding behind a turret and trying to finish off a weakened Optimus, but nothing else. As for Arcee...that's was a pretty bad showing. He lands a cheap shot, making her bleed everywhere and is beating the piss out of her, yet she three shots him. Airachnid has never been taken down that quickly even by a full health Arcee.

And weirdly enough, Starscream doesn't seem to take to the air all that much, except when he's hauling a***. He tends to slash them up a bit instead of doing strafing runs, even when strafing would be better (Apex Armor). Airachnid doesn't fly all that much either though.
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The early season one stuff is a bit more competent. That and he effectively fought off Prime, Bumblebee and Ratchet during their duel in War for Cybertron.

And not really. Sure Airrachnid is gonna roll up on him, but those webs aren't stoping his cybertronian AMRRAMs. Airrachnid took one shot to the head. Turned around, saw Starscream, then blitzed. She also didn't try and take him on the Nemesis when she decided she'd be the new Air Commander, she waited it out. Win lose or draw, Airrachnid wasn't planning on taking Starscream in a straight fight. She wins her fights via ambush, like Starscream does his via treachery... except against Seekers while he's on the run, apparently he just pulls their sparks out. When Starscream needs to be competent, he's highly competent.

Starscream is pretty tough. Airrachnid's no slouch, but functionally she really hasn't accomplished anything that Starscream hasn't. That aside, if we're taking Toys into consideration... well...

Starscream:
Strength: 8
Intellegence: 7
Speed: 9
Endurance: 6
Rank: 9
Courage: 3
Fireblast: 9
Skill: 10

Airrachnid
Strength: 5
Intellegence: 9
Speed: 8
Endurance: 4
Rank: 7
Courage: 6
Fireblast: 5
Skill: 6

He's got her out weighed, over powered, out gunned, out ranked, outmanuvered and outclassed. Airrachnid is a bit smarter and braver, but frankly Starscream can take more damage and dish out a hell of a lot more. Than and in fairness, for a two wheeler, Arcee is pretty tough, she's stood up to quite a bit. And her thrashings are pretty masterful. Unless Airrachnid had a hard fear edge on her, a foucsed Arcee has trounced her every time, much like the focused Starscream did. Despite the fact that she had no other real disadvantage when he appeared.

It'd probably be a pretty cool fight, but in a no holds barred match, Starscream is the champ.
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Dec 2 2014, 04:24 AM
The early season one stuff is a bit more competent. That and he effectively fought off Prime, Bumblebee and Ratchet during their duel in War for Cybertron.

And not really. Sure Airrachnid is gonna roll up on him, but those webs aren't stoping his cybertronian AMRRAMs. Airrachnid took one shot to the head. Turned around, saw Starscream, then blitzed. She also didn't try and take him on the Nemesis when she decided she'd be the new Air Commander, she waited it out. Win lose or draw, Airrachnid wasn't planning on taking Starscream in a straight fight. She wins her fights via ambush, like Starscream does his via treachery... except against Seekers while he's on the run, apparently he just pulls their sparks out. When Starscream needs to be competent, he's highly competent.

Starscream is pretty tough. Airrachnid's no slouch, but functionally she really hasn't accomplished anything that Starscream hasn't. That aside, if we're taking Toys into consideration... well...

Starscream:
Strength: 8
Intellegence: 7
Speed: 9
Endurance: 6
Rank: 9
Courage: 3
Fireblast: 9
Skill: 10

Airrachnid
Strength: 5
Intellegence: 9
Speed: 8
Endurance: 4
Rank: 7
Courage: 6
Fireblast: 5
Skill: 6

He's got her out weighed, over powered, out gunned, out ranked, outmanuvered and outclassed. Airrachnid is a bit smarter and braver, but frankly Starscream can take more damage and dish out a hell of a lot more. Than and in fairness, for a two wheeler, Arcee is pretty tough, she's stood up to quite a bit. And her thrashings are pretty masterful. Unless Airrachnid had a hard fear edge on her, a foucsed Arcee has trounced her every time, much like the focused Starscream did. Despite the fact that she had no other real disadvantage when he appeared.

It'd probably be a pretty cool fight, but in a no holds barred match, Starscream is the champ.
Airachnid didn't not taking him straight on could be attributed to many things besides that. And Starscream's competence is outshone by his moments of failure(Terrorcons and Dark Energon)

As for toys, I don't buy it. That puts Airachnid in the same rank as Knockout, which I severely doubt, given how Megatron couldn't give less of a damn what Knockout says whilst he has Airachnid sitting right there. The stats aren't the most comprehensive thing ever.

As for Arcee, I know she's tough, but Starscream had just slashed her(why he didn't gut her I don't know) and was landing vicious shots on her. Yet even after that, she proceeds to take down Starscream almost instantly. Airachnid tends to hold her own far better.

What of Starscream's cowardice? He was begging for mercy after being webbed up, it's not a stretch to say the same thing happens again, only it will take somewhat longer since he won't be offguard. It's worth noting that the only thing Starscream ever brings up as a boast is "I killed Cliffjumper".
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Lol no. Starscream, solo mind you, requisitioned an entire ship by himself, continually raided the nemesis solo, flying in in plain sight. He also stole the cyber planet keys, created red energin, and convinced Megatron that he was the one to not kill over are wing. He also discovered how the keys work, captured the human children, and successfully lead the cons for over three years while Megatron was in deep space. All things considered, Starscream is dangerous. Megatron recounted his wins and loses and determined it was a better idea to keep the king of traitors next to him because he was too valuable to kill (unlike knock off black arachnia who spent half of season 2 I'm stasis lock after failing miserably to beat Megatron with an ARMY of insecticons.)

A ld yeah, those are the toy stats. Transformers Toys > everything else, since 1984and Airrachnid WAS the same rank as Knockout until Starscteream deserted and she became Commander. She was military, he was science. It was like Shockwave and Screamer, same deal.

And sure Starscream is a coward. This is no new trait for the silver snake. I've been watching him piss his pants in front of Megatron before you were even born kid. Sure he'd cower and beg for mercy, but Airrachnid js sadistic and would let him squirt. She feeds off the fear. That gives him enough time to talk her down a bit and BLAMMo, Null Missile to the face. He's Megatrons number two for a reason. Besides, Airrachnid had no exit strategy when she tried to kill Megs. And she was dumb enough to try and take Soundwave. No Decepticon who makes rank is dumb enough to piss off Soundwave. That is an automatic demotion.
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