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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 28 2014, 01:22 AM (567 Views) | |
| lazerbem | Nov 28 2014, 01:22 AM Post #1 |
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Rhino is pissed off and thinks that they killed his wife, the Batfamily has full knowledge but no prep time. Battle takes place in a construction site. BONUS ROUND: Same, but if the Bat Family survives 30 minutes, Superman comes in to pwn Rhino The Bat Family line up is Batman, Nightwing(d***), Robin(Damian), Red Hood(Jason), and Batgirl(Cassie) I see the Bat Family dying horribly, though in the bonus, there is a chance at least one of them lives long enough to survive. Other than that, nothing really helps. Sonics will pretty much just piss Rhino off, gases don't work on him, and he's too durable to hurt(shot in the mouth by an alien gun and was merely knocked out). He's also fast enough to be a serious threat and strong enough to oneshot them with a single punch. The cryo-pellets might slow him down, but it'll mostly be dodging to stay alive |
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| BioBroly288 | Nov 28 2014, 03:20 AM Post #2 |
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Hey how bout Bane, There was a time he thought Batman was his Half Brother. He was considered part of the bat family. With his help, I can see them making it. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 28 2014, 03:30 AM Post #3 |
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How is Bane going to contribute? He may look similar to Rhino, but they are completely different. Rhino tanks rocket launchers while smiling and can have an alien gun go off in his mouth and merely be koed. If Bane tried that, he'd dead. Furthermore, Bane at the very best lifts 3 tons(at the cost of his intelligence), Rhino lifts 80-70 with minor issue. Bane doesn't have the gadgets the others do, he'll provide nothing more than a meat shield for Rhino to smash with a single attack |
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| BioBroly288 | Nov 28 2014, 03:47 AM Post #4 |
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If you ever read a batman comic you should know Bane is almost as smart as Batman himself. Though he is weaker than Rhino, Lets not act like Rhino hasnt been knocked down by people considerable weaker than him. Bane is a genuis in battle he can stall Rhino for a very long period of times and his strength can help him out as well, There are people weaker than Bane who have hurt or atleast faze Rhino. Im just saying if Batman can survive very long periods of time with the likes of Superman and Darkside, While Bane is basiclly a Hulking version of Batman, I Can see them pulling it off. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 28 2014, 04:11 AM Post #5 |
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Rhino has tanked a desperate Spider-Man's punches and fought the likes of Juggernaut, Hulk, and Colossus. Him getting hurt by anyone on Bane's level is horrific writing, something that does indeed plague Rhino(Captain America beating him). But if you want to bring up bad writing, Killer Croc was choked out by Harvey Dent. Batman also suffers from lots of bad writing, but in his case, it's the fact that he doesn't turn to red mist upon a finger flick from Darkseid or Superman. The argument is that they hold back, but even so.... Anyway, Batman was hurt badly by a single swipe from an amped Killer Croc in Hush. He may have been amped, but Killer Croc still wouldn't have held a candle to Rhino. Also, the team being geniuses doesn't help them here, Spider-Man is a genius too but he often has to use prep against Rhino, even with prep, he was unable to save Silver Sable from Rhino. ![]() This is what happens when an unprepared Spider-Man fights him http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/52246/1850899-1276371243423.jpg I put it in link form because the picture doesn't look good. Just zoom in on it Edited by lazerbem, Nov 28 2014, 04:12 AM.
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| BioBroly288 | Nov 28 2014, 04:51 AM Post #6 |
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Bane made Killer Croc his b*tch in all three encounters with just strength (Twice without Venom and one in the cartoons with it). Batman is the 1st to escape Darksides Omegabeam (Bad writing or not it has happen). Rhino lost to Juggs without a helmet (At that moment Juggs is most vunrable and he still lost). I dont recall Cap beating Rhino but Cap has beat Hulk before so i aint that suprised (Bane>Cap in everything exept experiance bad writing or not Rhino can be hurt by weaklings, Bane is way superior to Cap in Strength). Ill continue the Debate another Day, Black Friday is around the corner and i need a nap before i head out. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 28 2014, 12:35 PM Post #7 |
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Bane beating Killer Croc is fine, he's in the same strength tier but more skilled. Batman dodging Darkseid's omega beams is absolute nonsense and makes about as much sense as Spider-Man beating down Firelord. And no, Rhino being hurt by weaklings needs to be discounted, because his stats and showings against Spider-Man(as time goes on) are far better than that, to the point where Spider-Man admits he's afraid of him. Also, Captain America would stomp Bane |
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| BioBroly288 | Nov 29 2014, 03:19 AM Post #8 |
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How are you going to discount feats, that's so stupid. Bane is also stronger than croc as he was shown in all aperances to beat croc with pure strength alone. If weaker guys can hurt rhino, than bane can as well, deal with it, the batman family are surviving. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 29 2014, 03:23 AM Post #9 |
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Because if all feats are allowed, Spider-Man is a planet buster, Captain America can fight the Hulk and win, Rhino can take down the Silver Surfer, and Deathstroke can break Green Lantern's hand. It's bad writing and what is known as Plot Inducted Stupidity(PIS). And Bane has never beaten Croc with pure strength, he's beaten him twice, once by using his skill to break his arm, the second time by attacking Killer Croc's still healing arm. And Bane would literally turn into bloody paste from a single punch from Rhino. Rhino can lift 70-80 tons, Bane can't even do 10(Spider-Man tier). No one in the Batfamily can survive a punch from Rhino and their weapons aren't doing crap |
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| BioBroly288 | Nov 29 2014, 03:30 AM Post #10 |
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Most things in comics are bad writing, pre crisis super man can one shot a solar system by sneezing. I'm pretty sure Spidey busting a planet was cosmic Spidey. Slade is a master of pretty much anything, I, not surprised he broke his hand. Bane one shouted croc I'm media with steroids. Venom less bane broke crocs hand, he was able to catch someone who's supposebly as strong as his venom self's hand and broke it. Bane is stronger than croc. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 29 2014, 03:40 AM Post #11 |
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I meant Spider-Man beating the s*** out of Firelord, a herald of Galactus. Are you trolling with the Deathstroke being a master of many things statement? There's nothing he could have done that should have saved him from a punch from Green Lantern, yet he effortlessly catches it and breaks his hand. Don't like that example, here's another one, Juggernaut was once lifted off the ground and tossed by Gladiator(Juggernaut can't be lifted). Or how about Spider-Man tearing apart Doc Ock's tentacles that he's never so much as scratched before? Seriously, if the feat is stupid and makes no sense at all and is inconsistent, it's not canon. It's why Batman doing anything of note against Superman is BS, Superman would have to be holding back immensely. Same with Slade tagging the Flash and owning Green Lantern. Bane only fought Croc twice, first time, he was juiced up. Second time, he aimed for Croc's still healing arm. These don't really matter, because Killer Croc(except in Hush) is an absolute joke who gets beaten by everyone. Sometimes it's PIS, but most of the time, it's consistent. How is Bane supposed to hurt Rhino, someone who can take anti-tank missiles with a smile and easily overpower Spider-Man? |
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| TheACE | Nov 30 2014, 06:14 AM Post #12 |
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Actually Lazer, Spiderman has taken down Alex several times before even without prep. Most recently, the Rhino's resorted to team-up and gamma tactical PREP to match Parker. And in your OP you made a couple mistakes. Rhino is resistant not to gases, but to acids. The suit was rebuilt after it was destroyed by Spiderman and Dr Conners, who had used a highly potent acid to corrode his armor in combination with his webbing. In fact, anytime he is captured or incarcirated, he's weakened by several powerful sedative gasses, standard fair for the Bat team. In addition he shows no special resistance to electricity, even his Spectacular counterpart was floored by Electro. His max bench is clocked in at around 75 tons. Quite a bit, but not even enough to out lift Titania, who can bench a solid 80 tons according to Cosmic Spiderman chapter 2. Hr fought the Hulk, but he's certainly never beaten him nor remotely over powered Banner. And most importantly, Rhino has impressive speed, but he's not a master fighter, tactician, scientist of any kind or strategist. In fact, his usual tactic of charging his opponent's traditionally gets him burried under 100 ton machinery, trapped in concrete and steel or whatever other contrived convenience is nearby. That and his temper traditionally gets the better of him. Knowing Grayson and young Wayne, I'm certain three good taunts should get his blood boiling long enough for him to make a mistake. Hands down victory goes to The Batman and family. Bonus round is overkill. And as for the Spider-Man beating down Firelord, it makes perfect sense. I think you're a little young to remember the Cosmic Spidey arc, but Parker is a proven Captain Universe Templar. The Uni Power possesses an individual at a time of crisis. So when Spider-man cuts loose and really lays down the smack down, he may very well be tapping into a small portion of the extra dimensional Uni Power without being formally taken over. |
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| lazerbem | Nov 30 2014, 01:37 PM Post #13 |
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I don't remember him taking down Rhino in any fashion that wasn't Rhino jobbing without prep(crashing into something really shouldn't do anything). And no, he's immune to gas ![]() Maybe he's like Absorbing Man, where it takes a special kind or something. I don't think electricity has been tested against him, but his Spectacular form is much weaker and he was just fine with the tasers. I think you're confusing his suitless strength with his suited strength, he's an 80 tonner. I never claimed he could overpower the Hulk, just that he could fight him somewhat well, along with the likes of the Juggernaut and the Thing(not counting Thor as he was using a special horn). Rhino really hasn't been all that dumb recently, his little plot of drowning Silver Sable and what not. Not to mention that crashing into something really isn't going to do much to him, well, shouldn't, Rhino jobs more than any other Spider-Man villain(Captain America's falcon kick). I do think they can win the bonus round, but it's still not going to be easy. I guess that's the explanation behind fighting Morlun, the guy who tanked all of Wakanda's weaponry with a smile? |
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| Rogafufuken | Dec 1 2014, 12:06 AM Post #14 |
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Not sure what Rhino's jumping feats are, but couldn't the team just hide high up in the construction site, and then last 30 minutes until Supes comes in during the Bonus Round? I know that Rhino isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, so even in the first round, they could just trick him into crushing himself under rubble that he smashed down. There'd also ought to be some wet cement that they could trick him into falling in. if he's immobilized that should count as a KO. First Round: Bat Family might win Bonus Round: Bat Family should most likely survive long enough until Supes can save the, and end the fight. |
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| lazerbem | Dec 1 2014, 12:18 AM Post #15 |
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I'm not sure about his jumping, but he can just knock down what they're standing on. Not to mention that it's not really in some of their characters to hide(I'm looking at Damian here) And that's not all that true. While he's not a genius, Rhino isn't really stupid either. He has come up with good plans, like pretending to be slow to catch Spider-Man offguard as well as at one point, luring Spider-Man into a busy street so he couldn't dodge his charge. He gets tricked sometimes, but it's not like he's so stupid as to ko himself(most of the time). Also worth noting that the Juggernaut needed to use a gun to take down Rhino. Granted, it was a weakened Juggernaut, but still http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/54697/1059401-26.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/54697/1059402-28.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/54697/1059403-30.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/54697/1059404-34.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/54697/1059405-35.jpg |
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