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Beginning of shippuden naruto vs 21st budokai goku
Topic Started: Nov 26 2014, 05:32 PM (2,412 Views)
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Beginning of shippuden naruto vs 21st budokai goku
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Not even 23rd Goku can tank "moon busters" seeing that he claimed that Piccolo's island shaking shockwave was the strongest ki felt up to that point.

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23rd budokai goku can. Piccolo did so why not goku? Well he didn't really tank it but he withstood it pretty well.

21st goku definitely can't tank something close to a moon buster though
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Yeah he tanked it, but how would you explain the stated: island shaking shockwave > moon destruction. I've seen people explain this by saying the DB moon is very fragile so it wouldn't be a considerable feat.

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Piccolos blast flattened the island and that's it. But just because the island is nowhere near the size of the moon doesn't mean piccolos armpit blast is weaker than goku's moon busting KHH
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Dec 1 2014, 12:11 AM
piccolos armpit blast
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lol ok. I disagree but respect your opinion.

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Nov 30 2014, 11:58 PM
Not even 23rd Goku can tank "moon busters" seeing that he claimed that Piccolo's island shaking shockwave was the strongest ki felt up to that point.
The island wasn't any normal island you could find. It's close to the size of a small continent. Piccolo basically wiped everything off it, and they were pretty exhausted and injured at that time, not even close to when they're fresh.

Goku's Super Kamehameha is moon level. Get over it already. Piccolo took on it. You could debate that Piccolo's blast could have weakened the Super Kamehameha though.

That Goku would easily beat BoS Naruto.
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Didnt Roshi blew the moon up after 21 st tenkaichi budokai

So roshi's kamehameha was already moon buster

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Roshi's full power KHH he's not a casual moon buster it takes pretty much all he has.

Goku has barely any energy either. And a moon buster is useless anyway how can Goku possibly use that in a fight? Takes way too long to charge, would kill Goku himself and Naruto wouldn't just stand there he's not a DB character.

Seriously, when will people stop with the buster "arguments" piercing attacks can be just as powerful something that cuts through thhe strongest material ever vs an explosion that blows a planet up but not said material is weaker than the piercingg attack, in that regard.

It's not all about explosions.
I feel like I should tattoo that on my head...although none of you would see it ever, hmm...
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Roshi's full power KHH he's not a casual moon buster it takes pretty much all he has.

Goku has barely any energy either. And a moon buster is useless anyway how can Goku possibly use that in a fight? Takes way too long to charge, would kill Goku himself and Naruto wouldn't just stand there he's not a DB character.

Seriously, when will people stop with the buster "arguments" piercing attacks can be just as powerful something that cuts through thhe strongest material ever vs an explosion that blows a planet up but not said material is weaker than the piercingg attack, in that regard.

It's not all about explosions.
I feel like I should tattoo that on my head...although none of you would see it ever, hmm...
But if someone's concentrated KI could destroy the moon imagine what could he do with a non-concentrated ki blast ....

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Nov 30 2014, 11:58 PM
Not even 23rd Goku can tank "moon busters" seeing that he claimed that Piccolo's island shaking shockwave was the strongest ki felt up to that point.
21st Roshi Kamehameha Wave > Piccolo's Chobakuretsumaha?

That makes perfect sense to me.
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Dec 1 2014, 04:41 PM
But if someone's concentrated KI could destroy the moon imagine what could he do with a non-concentrated ki blast ....
It can't be concentrated and blow up, the blowing up part is all the energy being released the actual beam might be concentrated but if it blows up that's as big as it gets.

The only thing that qualifies as a concentrated explosion is Vegeta's sacrifice because obviously he had to limit that to not murder everyone, as you can see it's completely different to Piccolo's explosive wave which looks like a nuke going off.
It makes no sense for them to be able to concentrate explosions remotely, especially not a character who can't even sense. With Vegeta he likely had precise control due to being at the center.


Anyway still people need to get that there are different types of attacks not just explosions. Piercing, blunt force, melting, mental, internal, sound based etc etc DB has abysmal variety when compared to other shounen but people who only focus on it seem to think that if other characters can't blow up s*** they're weaker even though strength if classified very differently in other series, very very differently.
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Not even 23rd Goku can tank "moon busters" seeing that he claimed that Piccolo's island shaking shockwave was the strongest ki felt up to that point.
21st Roshi Kamehameha Wave > Piccolo's Chobakuretsumaha?

That makes perfect sense to me.
Yeah I agree with the USSJ amping and whatev. But still Goku said the strongest blast was so far was the Chobakuretsumaha... I'm just confused. It seems to play into the whole moon wasn't written as the real moon idea.

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Not even 23rd Goku can tank "moon busters" seeing that he claimed that Piccolo's island shaking shockwave was the strongest ki felt up to that point.
21st Roshi Kamehameha Wave > Piccolo's Chobakuretsumaha?

That makes perfect sense to me.
Yeah I agree with the USSJ amping and whatev. But still Goku said the strongest blast was so far was the Chobakuretsumaha... I'm just confused. It seems to play into the whole moon wasn't written as the real moon idea.
It's almost as if the moon was quite close to the Earth and not nearly as big as the regular moon...

No, that's just crazy talk.
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I guess master Roshi ki blasts >>>>>>>>> Beerus then since his attack blew up the moon and beerus tiny blasts couldn't blow up a cave he was fighting in

Lol

It's painfully obvious they condense thier attacks and if you suggest otherwise that is truly crazy talk

If they don't condense thier attacks there casual ki blasts would destroy everything
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Well no one is denying they compress their blasts. However if you look at piccolos armpit blast in the manga, it looks like an actual explosion with whole mushroom cloud and stuff.

Beerus's ki blasts looked like explosions too though so it doesn't matter. So no, the moon is not really small or fragile. Toriyama just felt like drawing piccolos blast like an explosion. I'm pretty sure there are other ki blasts that look like that too. Gohan when he's a great ape firing ki blasts is another example
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