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| NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic) | |
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| TheGmGoken | Jan 8 2015, 09:39 PM Post #1336 |
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I actually praised the movie for TRYING to bring back humor. However it failed miserably. None of it was funny. Terrible comedy. Beerus ain't the first being to be all mighty but doesn't care for destruction but actually follows a task. Piccolo JR. Kami made note of this very early in Saiyan Arc. You can argue that Jr was programmed to kill Goku. There's also many Dragonball bad guys (from part 1) who was like this. "A God who loses his s*** over pudding is funny to me and not unreasonable. " A grown man who loses his s*** over a baby crying is funny to me and not unreasonable. A candy man who loses his s*** over candy is funny to me and not unreasonable. This isn't the first time Goku's crew have been defeated. You can say that they lost their battle but WON the goal. Goal was to save the Earth and they did just that. Goku also haven't won a major fight since FREEZA. Also I PRAISED Vegeta role in the movie multiple of times on here, Kanzenshuu, AND YouTube. Doesn't change the fact BoG was s***. Will always be s***. Nothing will change that. I think it's best to stop the argument here. |
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| superperfectnerd | Jan 8 2015, 09:53 PM Post #1337 |
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Piccolo enjoyed destruction, it wasn't his 'career choice', he wanted vengeance and pain and suffering. It'a not the same as a God indifferent to life, who destroys if he is bored or irritated. He's got a very different outlook on mortal beings. You realise all of these opinions on comedy are subjective right? I don't think HIMYM is very funny but a lot of people loved it. Broly doesn't lose his s*** over a crying baby, he was made insane by a crying baby. To the point were all he can say is "Kakarot" and all I can do is weep that there were 3 movies based on that dullard. I don't think they were going for humour in any of Broly's details. Buu was evil, he enjoyed killing anyway. He would have killed everyone whether he lost his s*** or not. Beerus would not. It's still a defeat. No other movie or saga has ended with a loss like that and it has greater implications for the future of those characters. Edited by superperfectnerd, Jan 8 2015, 09:59 PM.
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| TheGmGoken | Jan 8 2015, 11:02 PM Post #1338 |
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Read the last sentence of my previous comments please. This is going in circles. And yes I know what an opinion is. I've said IMO many times. Watch the JPN version of first Broly. He said more than kakarot and in second coming he lost his s*** over Goten crying. |
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| + Pyrus | Jan 8 2015, 11:14 PM Post #1339 |
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I don't know what's going on here, but I'm inserting myself to say I'm more interested in how Freeza comes back than him actually coming back. |
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| superperfectnerd | Jan 8 2015, 11:26 PM Post #1340 |
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Saying "we should end the argument here" is just an excuse to have the last word, masquerading as taking the 'high ground'. Clearly a lot of people are excited about this movie, we've got 90 pages of us banging on about it already. I don't understand that if some people hated BOG so much and hate the idea of Freeza returning then why are they even here? It's only a movie, just stick to the manga/previous movies and ignore the announcements for this one. You should always get permission before inserting yourself... I am also interested to see how Freeza returns but I think it's been confirmed it's just a boring old wish. I'm more interested in how he gets strong. Surely they can't just wish for power? The good guys are really missing a trick if that's possible. |
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| + Pyrus | Jan 8 2015, 11:29 PM Post #1341 |
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Ja, you'd think simply wishing for more power would be out of the question. Immortality seems like the extent of that stuff. Freeza did train, but there should be more to supplement it. If all he did was train, then holy cow, did he ever have a lot of dormant power ready to be served up. |
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| superperfectnerd | Jan 8 2015, 11:50 PM Post #1342 |
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I want the majority of his power to come through unnatural means. I really don't want to see his potential outstrip saiyan potential. I don't want him to die (again) thinking, "well if I had spent as much time training as these filthy monkeys, I'd be a lot stronger than them!". Like when Goku wanted him to know he had been properly bested.
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| + Pyrus | Jan 8 2015, 11:51 PM Post #1343 |
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I wonder if we'll get more information about his race in this movie. Probably not, but it'd be nice to finally have that stuff in a movie and not off-hand in guidebooks. |
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| superperfectnerd | Jan 8 2015, 11:54 PM Post #1344 |
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It was always complicated because Toryama would have to give a reason as to why Freeza was the biggest, baddest member of his race and could so confidently claim to be the 'strongest in the universe' if there's a whole planet full of similar creatures. |
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| + Pyrus | Jan 8 2015, 11:55 PM Post #1345 |
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His dad was almost as strong as him too. Non-canon mucks it up with Cooler being a beast but Chilled being a pile of white dog s***. |
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| TheGmGoken | Jan 8 2015, 11:57 PM Post #1346 |
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No..it wasn't excuse....to get last word. What are you talking about? I clearly explained why I said it. Since it was going in circles. I never said I hated the idea of Freeza. I said I HOPE this movie was better than BoG. I then explain why I didn't like BoG. Quite simple. Besides that I rarely mention BoG. So please don't assume. And that's the end of it because it's going in circles and I'm sure people are tired of reading it(Since you need an explanation on every single thing I say to end the discussion. Otherwise it's an excuse smh). We should be getting info around the end of January regarding ROF. Pretty hyped for it. |
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| superperfectnerd | Jan 9 2015, 12:00 AM Post #1347 |
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Maybe after Chilled Freeza's species began breeding with a very similar looking but much weaker race. The only noticeable physical difference was their lack of a tail and less spiky horns. Most importantly the hybrids yielded incredible hidden power and potential.
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Jan 9 2015, 03:12 AM Post #1348 |
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I can see Freeza training thru the entirety of his death, but him being stronger than everyone (I'm assuming this is so, haven't read much about the movie) is just so, so silly. HE GOT ONE-SHOTTED BY GOHAN IN FUSION REBORN! HE GOT HIS a*** HANDED TO HIM BY PIKKON! Yeah that s*** ain't canon but it still happened. Wtf? Also, I agree with Goken. BoG ain't funny at all. They buried Vegeta so bad in the f***ing movie. Only good moment he had was the "You hit my Bulma" s*** but even that didn't make much sense. |
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Jan 9 2015, 12:30 PM Post #1349 |
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I wonder who Freeza would train with. |
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Jan 9 2015, 01:31 PM Post #1350 |
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I hope AT is taking notes on how "Revenge of Cooler" was made.Piccolo had such a badass moment when he came to rescue gohan from Coolers henchmen. I also love how the song "breaking point- falling down" was played when piccolo arrived. I know in the new movie goku and vegeta , again as usual, are going to be the main heroes, but, I really hope piccolo, krillin and gohan also have some badass moment when they are fighting Freiza's henchmen like how piccolo had in the movie "Revenge of Cooler". And, there better be a good soundtrack for the English dub version. |
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