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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,316 Views)
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Frankly I prefer the look of SSJ Gohan. All Toei needs to do is explain why Gohan is now capable of turning into a Super Saiyajin, and they likely won't have to worry about fans b***ing about this again.
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To be fair. Every time Freeza is mentioned. Trunks is not. Goku gets the credit of beating Freeza. Wasn't Freeza holding back against Trunks anyways? I wasn't sure because the manga has it one way and the anime had it another.

Besides Freeza is scared of Goku. She almost had a heart attack when Trunks went SSJ and in the anime he had nightmare flashbacks.


Freeza planned to greet Goku on his return to Earth and and defeat him with his new power. Trunks turned up and proved stronger than what Freeza was expecting from Goku himself. He has no idea how strong Goku was after Namek. Besides - holding back or not - Trunks was the one who actually ended his life by slicing him into tiny cubes. It doesn't matter who was the strongest super saiyan, if I came back to life the first person I'd be gunning for would be the one who killed me. Even if they were a tiny midget with a spoon...or Yamcha.
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Dec 28 2014, 06:18 PM
Frankly I prefer the look of SSJ Gohan. All Toei needs to do is explain why Gohan is now capable of turning into a Super Saiyajin, and they likely won't have to worry about fans b***ing about this again.
I concur. Frankly, I don't even care so much about the why. I like Super Saiyan on Gohan more than his "Ultimate" look.
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Dec 28 2014, 06:18 PM
Frankly I prefer the look of SSJ Gohan. All Toei needs to do is explain why Gohan is now capable of turning into a Super Saiyajin, and they likely won't have to worry about fans b***ing about this again.
They never said he couldn't in the anime or manga ... Never once said he wouldn't be able to transform again
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Dec 28 2014, 10:26 PM
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Dec 28 2014, 06:18 PM
Frankly I prefer the look of SSJ Gohan. All Toei needs to do is explain why Gohan is now capable of turning into a Super Saiyajin, and they likely won't have to worry about fans b***ing about this again.
They never said he couldn't in the anime or manga ... Never once said he wouldn't be able to transform again
But it was confirmed that Rou Kaioshin's ritual made it so Gohan didn't need to transform. If he doesn't need to, why does he? I don't think an explanation is too much to ask for.
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Dec 28 2014, 10:39 PM
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Dec 28 2014, 10:26 PM
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Dec 28 2014, 06:18 PM
Frankly I prefer the look of SSJ Gohan. All Toei needs to do is explain why Gohan is now capable of turning into a Super Saiyajin, and they likely won't have to worry about fans b***ing about this again.
They never said he couldn't in the anime or manga ... Never once said he wouldn't be able to transform again
But it was confirmed that Rou Kaioshin's ritual made it so Gohan didn't need to transform. If he doesn't need to, why does he? I don't think an explanation is too much to ask for.
Gohan is told do that ssj thing but throw in kiai. Gohan say the gist of ssj then. Sans the kiai he transforms into blonde haired blue eyes. Goku even asks if they both need to be ssj to make their hypothetical fusion stronger chapters later, implying Gohan can still go super like he can without the kiai thrown in.

It's never explicitly said he can't become super ever again. Heck it's implied he can chapters later when he's getting his butt kicked by Buutenks. He may need simple coaching to get it right, like everything in his life though. He had years to get it right post Buu
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Frankly I prefer the look of SSJ Gohan. All Toei needs to do is explain why Gohan is now capable of turning into a Super Saiyajin, and they likely won't have to worry about fans b***ing about this again.
gohan turns ssj in BOG in order to channel his energy into goku.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I think Toei is just so used to putting SSJ on people, whether it was in DBZ or GT or the movies, etc. It's second nature to them now that they keep forgetting that they're not supposed to. And so they're constantly having to fix up their mistakes. I mean we look back at Battle of Gods and in the preview we all remember Gohan going Super Saiyan and attacking Beerus but then the movie came out and he was back in his "Ultimate Form" or whatever.

And like I said, I think Toei is so used to do that because Fantastic Gohan didn't exist that long and he's the only character who has this strange "base look" trait that nobody else has and you've got everyone else just popping in SSJ constantly I'm not surprised Toei keeps messing it up.
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Seems strange to forget that many times especially when it's your job to remember.
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You'd think after the first flub with BOG they'd get it right this time.
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gohan was a ssj in BOG later on...........
it was just said above as well
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I like it. Gohan shouldn't be the ugly duckling of the Saiyan family.
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Dec 29 2014, 04:33 AM
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Dec 28 2014, 06:18 PM
Frankly I prefer the look of SSJ Gohan. All Toei needs to do is explain why Gohan is now capable of turning into a Super Saiyajin, and they likely won't have to worry about fans b***ing about this again.
gohan turns ssj in BOG in order to channel his energy into goku.
But he didn't need to do that, unless you're telling me that the original Super Saiyajin God was formed using 5 Super Saiyajins, or that Pan was a SSJ Fetus. Beyond that though, that doesn't explain why he's going Super Saiyajin to clearly fight in this film.
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inb4 Pan goes SSJ in the new movie.
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They'll change Gohan at the last minute but he'll still transform at some point, probably for no combat purpose.
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