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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,320 Views)
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He was probably attempting to harness the power of these.
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I was thinking. Many told me in BoG only 1 wish was made.
1st wish: Pilfar's age?
2nd: SSG wish?
3rd: Bring back Freeza?

Would that fix the "plot hole".
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If they repeat the beating of Vegeta that he got on Namek, I'm gonna be pissed. It would be a lot better if Goku was in that spot and Vegeta came to save him.
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I don't like how goku isn't turning even ssj1 in this movie. There's practically zero strain from it and it should still be a massive power increase. If the reason he doesn't turn ssj is because he doesn't want even the slightest amount of strain then that's pretty dumb I think
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Dec 21 2014, 07:43 PM
I don't like how goku isn't turning even ssj1 in this movie. There's practically zero strain from it and it should still be a massive power increase. If the reason he doesn't turn ssj is because he doesn't want even the slightest amount of strain then that's pretty dumb I think
Maybe it isn't as massive a power increase as it once were?
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Dec 21 2014, 08:00 PM
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Dec 21 2014, 07:43 PM
I don't like how goku isn't turning even ssj1 in this movie. There's practically zero strain from it and it should still be a massive power increase. If the reason he doesn't turn ssj is because he doesn't want even the slightest amount of strain then that's pretty dumb I think
Maybe it isn't as massive a power increase as it once were?
That's what I was thinking too. Hopefully there is an explanation more like this instead of him just preferring not to use it
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If he absorbed the God powers maybe he's a bit like Gohan and the majority of his power now comes out in his base as if he was in the god form. I mean, when he was fighting Beerus in base and getting some good hits in he then becomes ssj and fights pretty much the same, maybe slightly better than he did before and ssj was innitially stated to be a 50x increase. I highly doubt Beerus was using 70% of his power fighting Godku, instantly switched down to around 1.4% when Goku went down to base and then shot back up to 70% when Goku went ssj. Plus if Goku could almost match Beerus 70% as a ssj1, then as a ssj2 he should be around 140% of Beerus and 560% as a ssj3. Even with the strain of those forms he'd annihilate Beerus without breaking a sweat and then Whis would be next.
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It wouldn't be the first time Toei has shown the boost to mean incredibly little. All the movies after 5 and the filler in the Boo arc are good examples of miniscule boosts.
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Dec 22 2014, 12:12 PM
If he absorbed the God powers maybe he's a bit like Gohan and the majority of his power now comes out in his base as if he was in the god form. I mean, when he was fighting Beerus in base and getting some good hits in he then becomes ssj and fights pretty much the same, maybe slightly better than he did before and ssj was innitially stated to be a 50x increase. I highly doubt Beerus was using 70% of his power fighting Godku, instantly switched down to around 1.4% when Goku went down to base and then shot back up to 70% when Goku went ssj. Plus if Goku could almost match Beerus 70% as a ssj1, then as a ssj2 he should be around 140% of Beerus and 560% as a ssj3. Even with the strain of those forms he'd annihilate Beerus without breaking a sweat and then Whis would be next.
What if the multiplier isn't static and changes person to person?
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I love the fact that a new movie is coming out but honestly I dont see this turning out any other way than this...

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Everyone realized it would go like that, so they gave him a BS power-up. Shucks.
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Dec 21 2014, 07:13 PM
I was thinking. Many told me in BoG only 1 wish was made.
1st wish: Pilfar's age?
2nd: SSG wish?
3rd: Bring back Freeza?

Would that fix the "plot hole".
Not really. Why would pilaf stop at one wish?
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What if the multiplier isn't static and changes person to person?


I don't know, I'd have thought that would have been pointed out at some point if it was the case.

Maybe Freeza's wish has something to do with taking away the saiyans' ability to transform. Or he has otherwise found a way to do this. So Freeza isn't actually massively above the saiyans, he just takes away their access to the very form he feared and the form which humiliated him twice. That way, if Vegeta does win, Toryama can somehow rationalise it without having to resort to Vegeta > Goku.
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Dec 23 2014, 07:12 AM
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Dec 22 2014, 12:12 PM
If he absorbed the God powers maybe he's a bit like Gohan and the majority of his power now comes out in his base as if he was in the god form. I mean, when he was fighting Beerus in base and getting some good hits in he then becomes ssj and fights pretty much the same, maybe slightly better than he did before and ssj was innitially stated to be a 50x increase. I highly doubt Beerus was using 70% of his power fighting Godku, instantly switched down to around 1.4% when Goku went down to base and then shot back up to 70% when Goku went ssj. Plus if Goku could almost match Beerus 70% as a ssj1, then as a ssj2 he should be around 140% of Beerus and 560% as a ssj3. Even with the strain of those forms he'd annihilate Beerus without breaking a sweat and then Whis would be next.
What if the multiplier isn't static and changes person to person?
None of the characters, especially the Saiyans, would be able to properly assess the others' power...which is not the case.
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