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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,322 Views)
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Nagito Komaeda
Dec 20 2014, 05:05 PM
LostSoulzKGM
Dec 20 2014, 05:01 PM
How does he train though? Who provided him with the body to train? Didn't Chaituzu need a new body when he exploded? I thought HFIL don't have bodies?


That's why we wait for Toriyama to tell us how it happened. We can't deem it as non-canon because Toriyama, who created HFIL, can easily create a reason for Freeza being able to train.

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Dec 20 2014, 04:58 PM
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Dec 20 2014, 04:55 PM
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Dec 20 2014, 04:52 PM
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Dec 20 2014, 04:51 PM
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Interesting things revealed at Jump Festa:

Krillin is a police officer.
Freeza trains for the first time in his life.
Goku doesn't become Super Saiyan throughout the movie.

-Fine, I'm sure he's good at his job.
-I'm not sure if this is referring to how he reached god level or not. If is, that's stupid, and it's a deal breaker.
-I don't really like the sound of that, but I guess we'll see how that goes.
A deal-breaker in what sense?
In whether or not I like the film. That's really bad writing. If Freeza was trained by a god, fine. If he trained himself, nope nope nope nope nope nope.
Well, if he hasn't trained before in his life and he's naturally as powerful as he was, then he's got an unbelievable amount of potential to recognise by training. It'd be the biggest gain in the entire series, yeah, but it wouldn't be impossible.
I don't care how great his potential is; for him to become as strong as Godku by simply training is dumb.


When he's had potentially 15+ years to train? It's not that dumb, really.
No, that's still dumb. Why would Freeza have potential exceeding the likes of Godku? That simply comes out of nowhere, and is bad writing. Besides, Freeza probably has trained before based on this tidbit from the manga:
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Chapter: 310 (DBZ 116), P2.2-3
Freeza: "I didn't think you'd be this good...You're the first person besides my parents who's got dust on me...This might be the first time in my life I've been so excited..."
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ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Dec 20 2014, 05:30 PM
Nagito Komaeda
Dec 20 2014, 05:05 PM
LostSoulzKGM
Dec 20 2014, 05:01 PM
How does he train though? Who provided him with the body to train? Didn't Chaituzu need a new body when he exploded? I thought HFIL don't have bodies?


That's why we wait for Toriyama to tell us how it happened. We can't deem it as non-canon because Toriyama, who created HFIL, can easily create a reason for Freeza being able to train.

ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Dec 20 2014, 05:01 PM
Nagito Komaeda
Dec 20 2014, 04:58 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Dec 20 2014, 04:55 PM
Nagito Komaeda
Dec 20 2014, 04:52 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Dec 20 2014, 04:51 PM
Kei17
 
Interesting things revealed at Jump Festa:

Krillin is a police officer.
Freeza trains for the first time in his life.
Goku doesn't become Super Saiyan throughout the movie.

-Fine, I'm sure he's good at his job.
-I'm not sure if this is referring to how he reached god level or not. If is, that's stupid, and it's a deal breaker.
-I don't really like the sound of that, but I guess we'll see how that goes.
A deal-breaker in what sense?
In whether or not I like the film. That's really bad writing. If Freeza was trained by a god, fine. If he trained himself, nope nope nope nope nope nope.
Well, if he hasn't trained before in his life and he's naturally as powerful as he was, then he's got an unbelievable amount of potential to recognise by training. It'd be the biggest gain in the entire series, yeah, but it wouldn't be impossible.
I don't care how great his potential is; for him to become as strong as Godku by simply training is dumb.


When he's had potentially 15+ years to train? It's not that dumb, really.
No, that's still dumb. Why would Freeza have potential exceeding the likes of Godku? That simply comes out of nowhere, and is bad writing. Besides, Freeza probably has trained before based on this tidbit from the manga:
Quote:
 
Chapter: 310 (DBZ 116), P2.2-3
Freeza: "I didn't think you'd be this good...You're the first person besides my parents who's got dust on me...This might be the first time in my life I've been so excited..."
That could just mean Cold and/or his possible mother physically abused him.
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Clearin
Dec 20 2014, 05:34 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Dec 20 2014, 05:30 PM
Nagito Komaeda
Dec 20 2014, 05:05 PM
LostSoulzKGM
Dec 20 2014, 05:01 PM
How does he train though? Who provided him with the body to train? Didn't Chaituzu need a new body when he exploded? I thought HFIL don't have bodies?


That's why we wait for Toriyama to tell us how it happened. We can't deem it as non-canon because Toriyama, who created HFIL, can easily create a reason for Freeza being able to train.

ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Dec 20 2014, 05:01 PM
Nagito Komaeda
Dec 20 2014, 04:58 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Dec 20 2014, 04:55 PM
Nagito Komaeda
Dec 20 2014, 04:52 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Dec 20 2014, 04:51 PM
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Interesting things revealed at Jump Festa:

Krillin is a police officer.
Freeza trains for the first time in his life.
Goku doesn't become Super Saiyan throughout the movie.

-Fine, I'm sure he's good at his job.
-I'm not sure if this is referring to how he reached god level or not. If is, that's stupid, and it's a deal breaker.
-I don't really like the sound of that, but I guess we'll see how that goes.
A deal-breaker in what sense?
In whether or not I like the film. That's really bad writing. If Freeza was trained by a god, fine. If he trained himself, nope nope nope nope nope nope.
Well, if he hasn't trained before in his life and he's naturally as powerful as he was, then he's got an unbelievable amount of potential to recognise by training. It'd be the biggest gain in the entire series, yeah, but it wouldn't be impossible.
I don't care how great his potential is; for him to become as strong as Godku by simply training is dumb.


When he's had potentially 15+ years to train? It's not that dumb, really.
No, that's still dumb. Why would Freeza have potential exceeding the likes of Godku? That simply comes out of nowhere, and is bad writing. Besides, Freeza probably has trained before based on this tidbit from the manga:
Quote:
 
Chapter: 310 (DBZ 116), P2.2-3
Freeza: "I didn't think you'd be this good...You're the first person besides my parents who's got dust on me...This might be the first time in my life I've been so excited..."
That could just mean Cold and/or his possible mother physically abused him.
Doubtful since Cold seems to adore him.
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Things change. Maybe we shouldn't take the manga so literally anymore.
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Goku better turn ssj at least once or I'm going to lose my s*** unless the movie is extremely badass to make up for it
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Mmmm. Well considering Goku doesn't go ssj and he is beside Whis in the preview... Maybe a god helped Freeza to bring him back as training for Goku?
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Freeza's statement could refer to punishment for doing something bad as a child. It doesn't have to be abuse or training.

As for this news, I'm losing hope in the film's explanations for everything so far, but I also find it hilarious that "training" is what apparently brings Freeza from nearly 100% irrelevancy strength-wise to surpassing or at least fighting on even ground Godku, who had already surpassed the strongest form of Majin Boo by far and is most likely even stronger in this movie than he was in Battle of Gods. The hypocrisy that should come out of this from certain people will be amusing.

I like Krillin being a police officer. Represent, son. I would love to have him at my department. It doesn't really contradict anything from the manga either.
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So Freeza training is going to make him on par with Godku REALLY?

Sometimes I wish manga's had different writers like comics

Because if the manga artist is s*** you're stuck with it
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Dec 20 2014, 07:41 PM
So Freeza training is going to make him on par with Godku REALLY?

Sometimes I wish manga's had different writers like comics

Because if the manga artist is s*** you're stuck with it
Training for 15 years and becoming hundreds, thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of times stronger is okay.

Training for 15 days and becoming fifty times stronger is not okay.
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Christ Almighty, people. Sit down and calm your mammaries for five seconds.

''Freeza trains for the first time in his life.''

Just from that tiny tidbit alone, you've come to the conclusion that it's the only reason he's stronger and that it's completely ridiculous and dumb, even though you don't know anything about the nature of the training?

Don't mind me, I'm just going to wait until the movie comes out instead of coming up with conjecture.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I hope he does get powerful by training. I hope he spends an entire day swinging around a big sword and goes from weaker than SSJ Namek Goku to stronger than Boohan.

You know why?

Because when he does, and you won't be able to deny it either when its shown...all the Base Gotenks deniers can shut the hell up. Cause if Freeza can do it, so can Gotenks.
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Dec 20 2014, 07:44 PM
Christ Almighty, people. Sit down and calm your mammaries for five seconds.

''Freeza trains for the first time in his life.''

Just from that tiny tidbit alone, you've come to the conclusion that it's the only reason he's stronger and that it's completely ridiculous and dumb, even though you don't know anything about the nature of the training?

Don't mind me, I'm just going to wait until the movie comes out instead of coming up with conjecture.
I don't have mammary glands, you evil man. I just think it'll be funny regardless of the type of training.
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Weird that Goten and trunks are still missing? No movie apperance for them?
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They're probably still working on the designs.
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Goku, so help me, if you don’t go Super Saiyan in this movie, I’ll do to you what Super Android 13 did to your dragon balls.
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