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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,342 Views)
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Hi there everyone,

I'm certain people now have read the new details regarding Freeza and his henchmen being a threat to the Z-Fighters.

V-Jump Unveils New Dragon Ball Z 2015 Movie Title & Date
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/11/17/v-jump-unveils-new-dragon-ball-z-2015-movie-title-date/

DBZ 2015 Movie Updates: Official Website, Poster, Etc.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/11/21/dbz-2015-movie-updates-official-website-poster-etc/

Dragon Ball Z 2015 New Movie: The Facts & What We Know So Far
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/07/25/dragon-ball-z-2015-new-movie-facts/


Summary of what was shown so far:

Tagline for the new movie: "The Whole Universe Has Been Waiting. A Godly Dimension of Battle Begins."

First trailer: "The worst wish in history. That is the beginning of despair."
There’s someone I want you to revive

quote Akira Toriyama
Why do you ask? Are you intending to bring back to life all the aliens killed in the past by Vegeta and co.? That should be possible too of course, but it would only be effective for those who died within one year.

quote Akira Toriyama
But unfortunately, Bardock has been dead for quite some time, so you probably won’t be able to see him in action except in stories of the past. There is the trick of having Shenlong bring him back to life, but by this point, his battle power isn’t high enough, so methinks it’d be a bit difficult.

quote Akira Toriyama
As for Vegeta, in the event that there’s talk of another animated film, then next time, I’d like him to play the main role. (Of course, this is nothing more than intentions, and I haven’t decided anything at all.)


Question 1:
I was wondering what you guys/girls think (believable, chance of him winning) about Freeza having a new transformation that allows him to be a threat to SS2 and SS3 tier characters?

Question 2:
Do you think having Beers and Whis in the poster along with Freeza having a new aura is miss leading? Meaning do you think Freeza after his new transformation is going to be a threat to Beers?


I personally think Freeza is not the main villain, I have a funny feeling that Freeza will power up, but nothing really threatening to Vegetto's or SSG level. Since Toriyama almost guarantee that this current movie is going to have more ACTION (deliberate by Toriyama), I think the story will be told in two people's point of view and throughout the movie converge back at the finale.

1. Freeza being the villain that allows Vegeta to grow as a character.
2. Goku having his re-match with Beers, but before the fight concludes, another God of Destruction (whom is much more powerful than Whis) intervenes and destroys Beers, SSG Goku and Whis.
3. After Vegeta finally finishes Freeza and avenging the Saiyan pride, he joins the battle and he gets to be the next Saiyan God (with Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Pan and Bulla) and they fuse to form into SSG Gogeta or Vegetto.

Truthfully, if Freeza becomes a God, he will have to thousands times stronger than his previous battle power level 120,000,000. This is why I think won't be the main villain.

What do you guys think?
Edited by olliebalollie, Nov 26 2014, 01:37 AM.


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I liked the Buu saga and Gotenks and Vegeto themselves. However I always felt that the introduction of 'fusion' gave the heroes too many options.
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I have a theory on how Frieza could potentially reach a level of power on par, if not higher than Whiss. If you have any theories relating to the upcoming 2015 DBZ movie, please do not hesitate to share them!

Frieza's army was incredibly vast. It would make sense that even after the death of Frieza, remnants of the army roamed the Universe and maybe even loyalties remained. Sorbet and Togama (two of Frieza's soldiers) could have been so loyal, that they voweled to resurrect him via the Dragonballs as soon as they heard of his death by the hand of a Saiyan. It is possible that they could have located the remaining Saiyans and began to monitor the activity of the warriors using technology Vegeta and Capsule Corp were unaware existed - the scouters and armour evolved (as shown in the Fukkazu no F poster) so this could apply to their general technology.

By potentially monitoring the strength and progress of the remaining Saiyans, they could have used that information to gauge how strong Frieza (or they) would have to be to defeat them - this could result in intense training or bio-modification (achieved by their advanced alien technology) to Surpass Goku, Vegeta and Gohan at some point.

Secretly tracking these events could then result in learning of the Super Saiyan God form and the God of Destruction. Now becoming aware of this kind of power, they could have created their own superficial God Technique in preperation of Frieza's resurrection - as they felt the power they had gained; artificially or not, would be no match for a God.

The reason I believe Sorbet and Togama stayed faithful to Frieza, despite surpassing him in terms of strength, (in this theory, anyway) is because they recognised he had the true mind of a leader, but required the power to match it.

Thanks for taking the time to read this! If you found anything that make not work in this theory, please correct it as I want to gain more perspective on the subject.
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I would honestly say "I wish Frieza was stronger than Goku during their battle on namek."

That would lead to him not dying and growing in level the last few years.
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I would honestly say "I wish Frieza was stronger than Goku during their battle on namek."

That would lead to him not dying and growing in level the last few years.


The dragon can't grant a wish beyond his creator's power. Goku and Freeza were both FAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRR beyond the creator of both sets of Dragonballs.
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Were they FAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRR or FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR beyond their creator?

I can't tell. :p
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The latter.

I have a question. Do people think Freeza knew about Beerus?
Edited by superperfectnerd, Nov 28 2014, 09:14 PM.
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I doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised if AT pulled it out of nowhere.

Even if Frieza did, I doubt his ego would allow him to believe someone like him could exist, but I'm going to say no.
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It's just weird that Beerus visited King Vegeta but never Freeza. What business did Beerus have with daddy Vegeta anyway?
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No idea, perhaps scouting out the Saiyans to see if any of them were capable of becoming a Super Saiyan God?
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He didn't know about that until after the saiyans demise I don't think.
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I don't remember, so I'm just guessing.
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Beerus says "shall I destroy Freeza the next time we meet?" Unless that's just a bad sub. I know he dreamt about the super saiyan God in the sleep he just awoke from and he remembered the oracle fish telling him something like 15-20 years prior.
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I don't remember, I only saw it once and I never watched the Japanese Version. I never trust Funimation, remember that's the company that put in the line about Broli keeps becoming stronger.
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Why would it be weird? Beerus knew Vegeta, so why would it be weird for Beerus to know Freeza?
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