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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,363 Views)
VejitaLovr
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Sorry... am I missing something here? Where was it EVER confirmed that Freeza was WISHED BACK?

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Nov 18 2014, 06:12 AM
He was just brought up in the last film, that made him somewhat relevant again.

Anyway, I wanted Freeza in this film since 1996, so too bad for you haters.
Being mentioned =/= becoming relevant again.

People would mention Freeza all the time in the Androids saga, but he was still weak as ****.
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I don't see what your point is here at all...

In my eyes based on power scaling, Son Goku was irrelevant once SSJ Gotenks pre formed on the lookout. After that moment in time he was irrelevant. Then BoG showed up, and he became potentially hundreds of thousands of times stronger. Pretty much nobody batted an eye when that happened because it was big daddy Goku. Someone else comes along and has the same thing happen and all of a sudden people want to kill Toriyama. The amount of time he was gone is irrelevant. It's clear that he is still a fan favourite villain, so he is the one who will be returning. Boo can't return, and who would want Cell to return?

And if you're getting this pissed off about it this early, I'd advise that you just get off this forum and forget about Dragon Ball. Or you could always try to go make your own Dragon Ball film, I'm sure that would be a huge success. You'd make billions man, I just know it!
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Nov 18 2014, 06:13 AM
Super Saiyan
Nov 18 2014, 06:12 AM
He was just brought up in the last film, that made him somewhat relevant again.

Anyway, I wanted Freeza in this film since 1996, so too bad for you haters.
Being mentioned =/= becoming relevant again.

People would mention Freeza all the time in the Androids saga, but he was still weak as ****.



I don't get what's with the Freeza hate, unlike every other major enemy after the Saiyan Arc, namely Cell and Buu, Freeza himself is the most developed, relevant character with a very rich nod to history in the DBZ universe that basically touched everyone up to this point, even Beerus felt he was worth mentioning, so why you don't think it would be relevant to continue the story of someone who was basically renowned throughout the galaxy is beyond me.

If they were to introduce another villain we'd basically need to start from scratch all over again, and we'd end up with some bland underdeveloped character like Buu crammed into a 2 hour screen-time. Hell even Cell only managed to muster a few I give a s*** points from me because of the relationship he had with with Gero and the Androids and Gohan's character development. I don't understand why so many DBZ fan boys get hung up on just strength and nothing but strength forgetting what actually makes a compelling deep story, if I wanted to just see people randomly pulling new transformations and moves out of their a*** every 5 episodes and nothing gradually developing or having any sort of substance I'd watch Naruto.

What good would be introducing a brand new villain at this point be? If you're going to power up someone why not do it to someone who already has a huge impact in the lore and seeks complete and utter revenge and destruction on the Saiyans.
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Nov 18 2014, 06:18 AM
I don't see what your point is here at all...

In my eyes based on power scaling, Son Goku was irrelevant once SSJ Gotenks pre formed on the lookout. After that moment in time he was irrelevant. Then BoG showed up, and he became potentially hundreds of thousands of times stronger. Pretty much nobody batted an eye when that happened because it was big daddy Goku. Someone else comes along and has the same thing happen and all of a sudden people want to kill Toriyama. The amount of time he was gone is irrelevant. It's clear that he is still a fan favourite villain, so he is the one who will be returning. Boo can't return, and who would want Cell to return?

And if you're getting this pissed off about it this early, I'd advise that you just get off this forum and forget about Dragon Ball. Or you could always try to go make your own Dragon Ball film, I'm sure that would be a huge success. You'd make billions man, I just know it!
I batted an eye and hated the fact that Kakarrot was the most powerful again, and is also my biggest compliant about GT too.
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As did I, but many of the people here who are saying Freeza shouldn't be strong had no problem with Goku being strong.
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From this day, Frieza has become more power than the Androids, Cell, Metal Cooler, Broly, Bojack, Janemba, Buu, and Hirudegarn. :D
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Nov 18 2014, 06:28 AM
As did I, but many of the people here who are saying Freeza shouldn't be strong had no problem with Goku being strong.
I get what you mean and I agree with you... but you know me, even thought that may not be a good thing. :p
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VejitaLovr
Nov 18 2014, 06:13 AM
Sorry... am I missing something here? Where was it EVER confirmed that Freeza was WISHED BACK?
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/11/dragon-ball-z-2015-movie-friezas-resurrection/

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Toriyama-sensei, says that the ‘F’ in the title Dragon Ball Z: Fukkatsu no F stands for “Frieza,” who will be revived in the movie. Toriyama notes that he thought of the title while listening to the song “F” by Japanese band Maximum The Hormone, who he came to know personally through a friend. In fact, one of the members told him that they had been singing the song about Frieza.

The story of the movie is as follows: “An Earth where peace has arrived. However, remnants of Frieza’s army Sorbet and Tagoma arrive on the planet. Their goal is to revive Frieza with the Dragon Balls. Their dastardly wish is granted, the “F” that plans its revenge against the Saiyans is revived…! ”


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Nov 18 2014, 06:18 AM
I don't see what your point is here at all...

In my eyes based on power scaling, Son Goku was irrelevant once SSJ Gotenks pre formed on the lookout. After that moment in time he was irrelevant. Then BoG showed up, and he became potentially hundreds of thousands of times stronger. Pretty much nobody batted an eye when that happened because it was big daddy Goku. Someone else comes along and has the same thing happen and all of a sudden people want to kill Toriyama. The amount of time he was gone is irrelevant. It's clear that he is still a fan favourite villain, so he is the one who will be returning. Boo can't return, and who would want Cell to return?

And if you're getting this pissed off about it this early, I'd advise that you just get off this forum and forget about Dragon Ball. Or you could always try to go make your own Dragon Ball film, I'm sure that would be a huge success. You'd make billions man, I just know it!
Being relevant isn't just about power. Relevancy is determined by one's presence in the plot. How much of a role they play in the story. Goku was never irrelevant because he always played big role in the story. Freeza, on the other hand, was shafted long ago and it had been that way for the longest time. Suddenly bringing back when there was no demand at all is just random.

Point is, Freeza has been dead for years. The series had long since moved on from him and nobody was demanding him to return. Suddenly bringing him back is just unnecessary and random.
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Is that Yamcha on the right? And why is Krillin's hair missing all of a sudden? I wonder how will they make Frieza so strong all of a sudden and since when does Shenlong grant only one wish? Last time he could grant 3, just like Porunga?
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Nov 18 2014, 12:08 AM
I think I remember reading that he did, for BOG.


Oh God, given the "great" results in BoG, imagine if he didn't... :rofl:

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Nov 18 2014, 03:39 AM
And just when you think the series can't get any worse.

So, the "worst wish in history" ... is bringing back Freeza? Somebody who has been dead and grossly outclassed for years? And let me guess, they're gonna give him some BS power-up? Shouldn't the Dragonballs be unable to bring back someone who has been dead for more than a year? And shouldn't Freeza's soul have been purified in hell and reincarnated?

Come on now. This is garbage. Sure, we still don't have much information, but this is really nothing to look forward to. smh


Well, look at it in this way: the word "worst" surely perfectly fits the whole thing.
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Pffffft, people want Vegeta to be the one to beat Frieza.

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Tbh I'm a little disappointed they've gone back to Frieza again. I don't really care how powerful he gets, he's been made too much of a joke out of since his defeat for me to take him seriously.
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I hope Vegeta doesn't beat Freeza, I'd drown in all the fanboy semen.
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Nov 18 2014, 11:21 AM
I hope Vegeta doesn't beat Freeza, I'd drown in all the fanboy semen.
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I feel like the Saiyans already got revenge for Frieza's genocide of their race. Even though they came back, Frieza did the same to the Namekians. Piccolo should be the chosen one.
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