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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
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Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,095 Views)
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superperfectnerd
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Jun 9 2015, 11:48 PM
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If you think about it. Freeza knew about Boo, Beerus, and the Legendary SSJ. And still never trained. Freeza...is kinda a dumbass lmao
If you want to look at it that way, sure, but you're forgetting a few things. Freeza killed all the Saiyajins, save 4, one of which went under the radar, so he actually made an attempt to eliminate that problem. Boo is imprisoned, and his creator is presumed dead. He, realistically, had no reason to worry about that. As for Beerus, even with training, he still wound up weaker than him, and Freeza made it clear he was going to maximize his strength in those 4 months, so any extra training wouldn't have amounted to much. Furthermore, this has less to do with laziness, and more to do with pride. Freeza thinks training beneath him because he's the strongest in the universe, as far as he knows anyway. He's too full himself to consider that maybe there are people other than Beerus and Boo who could stand up to him. It's typical villain arrogance that every villain in this franchise is guilty of. - Vegeta
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Chapter: 231 (DBZ 37), P1.2, P2.1 Context: after Goku beats him up with the Kaio-Ken x3 Vegeta: “This…this cannot be happening!!! I…I am a Super Elite!! I can not be beaten by some lower-level warrior like him!!! [ ] I am the best in the universe…!!!!”
- Cell
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Chapter: 409 (DBZ 215), P3.5 Context: after Gohan says he can beat Cell Cell: “Well then, I’ll show you…! My fearsome true power…!”
- Boo
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Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P9.2 Context: as Goku heads to Vegeta with the Potara Boo: “Now there’s another human with great power! But naturally he’s no match for me, even if they merged!”
Did Freeza maximise his ultimate potential? I mean Gohu, Gohan and Vegeta have 'maximised their potential' before and still gotten stronger. How would Freeza know he'd be inferior to Beerus if he never 'maxed out his potential'?
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Jun 10 2015, 12:27 AM
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- superperfectnerd
- Jun 9 2015, 11:48 PM
- ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
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If you think about it. Freeza knew about Boo, Beerus, and the Legendary SSJ. And still never trained. Freeza...is kinda a dumbass lmao
If you want to look at it that way, sure, but you're forgetting a few things. Freeza killed all the Saiyajins, save 4, one of which went under the radar, so he actually made an attempt to eliminate that problem. Boo is imprisoned, and his creator is presumed dead. He, realistically, had no reason to worry about that. As for Beerus, even with training, he still wound up weaker than him, and Freeza made it clear he was going to maximize his strength in those 4 months, so any extra training wouldn't have amounted to much. Furthermore, this has less to do with laziness, and more to do with pride. Freeza thinks training beneath him because he's the strongest in the universe, as far as he knows anyway. He's too full himself to consider that maybe there are people other than Beerus and Boo who could stand up to him. It's typical villain arrogance that every villain in this franchise is guilty of. - Vegeta
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Chapter: 231 (DBZ 37), P1.2, P2.1 Context: after Goku beats him up with the Kaio-Ken x3 Vegeta: “This…this cannot be happening!!! I…I am a Super Elite!! I can not be beaten by some lower-level warrior like him!!! [ ] I am the best in the universe…!!!!”
- Cell
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Chapter: 409 (DBZ 215), P3.5 Context: after Gohan says he can beat Cell Cell: “Well then, I’ll show you…! My fearsome true power…!”
- Boo
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Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P9.2 Context: as Goku heads to Vegeta with the Potara Boo: “Now there’s another human with great power! But naturally he’s no match for me, even if they merged!”
Did Freeza maximise his ultimate potential? I mean Gohu, Gohan and Vegeta have 'maximised their potential' before and still gotten stronger. How would Freeza know he'd be inferior to Beerus if he never 'maxed out his potential'? He could surpass his current limits if he figured out how, but he likely wouldn't make the effort to figure out how. Freeza realistically wouldn't know, but even though he can't sense Beerus, he still feared him after training. He's likely under the impression he can't surpass him.
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Jun 12 2015, 02:41 PM
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Ugh, I was watching the scene where Freeza was resurrected and said he was going to train, and I definitely heard the phrase, 戦闘力130万(battle power of 1,300,000). So yeah, this line made into the movie.
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Jun 12 2015, 03:48 PM
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That was the part that made no sense to me, but I figured it meant in his currently restricted form.
(It still makes no sense.)
Edited by sekzee, Jun 12 2015, 03:48 PM.
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Jun 12 2015, 04:01 PM
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- Jun 12 2015, 03:48 PM
That was the part that made no sense to me, but I figured it meant in his currently restricted form. (It still makes no sense.) I mean, it'd make sense if he didn't imply that's as strong as he could get. You saw the L.A. premier, what was the approximate line?
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Jun 14 2015, 10:18 PM
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I say this movie is filler for somethin bigger
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Jun 15 2015, 05:03 PM
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That was the part that made no sense to me, but I figured it meant in his currently restricted form. (It still makes no sense.)
I mean, it'd make sense if he didn't imply that's as strong as he could get. You saw the L.A. premier, what was the approximate line? It has been a while, but something about reaching a PL of 1.3MM.
I seriously took it as a joke, because he should know better.
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Jun 19 2015, 12:17 PM
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Is anyone going to Anime Expo for the dub premiere?
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Jun 19 2015, 11:01 PM
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- Jun 19 2015, 12:17 PM
Is anyone going to Anime Expo for the dub premiere? where is it
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Jun 19 2015, 11:08 PM
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Is anyone going to Anime Expo for the dub premiere?
where is it Anime Expo is gonna have the premier!? Oh man, I have to find a way to go!
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Jun 20 2015, 11:03 AM
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Is anyone going to Anime Expo for the dub premiere?
where is it
Anime Expo is gonna have the premier!? Oh man, I have to find a way to go! wheres that sorry never heard of it
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Jun 20 2015, 07:35 PM
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That was the part that made no sense to me, but I figured it meant in his currently restricted form. (It still makes no sense.)
I mean, it'd make sense if he didn't imply that's as strong as he could get. You saw the L.A. premier, what was the approximate line?
It has been a while, but something about reaching a PL of 1.3MM. I seriously took it as a joke, because he should know better. Ok, so this is Herms's translation of the line, from the script:
- Resurrection F Script
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Freeza: “Is that so surprising? In my estimation, if I train hard for 4 months then…I should acquire a battle power of 1.30 million…”
Welp, thankfully Resurrection F will only loosely be followed in Super.
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Jun 20 2015, 08:19 PM
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- Jun 12 2015, 03:48 PM
That was the part that made no sense to me, but I figured it meant in his currently restricted form. (It still makes no sense.)
I mean, it'd make sense if he didn't imply that's as strong as he could get. You saw the L.A. premier, what was the approximate line?
It has been a while, but something about reaching a PL of 1.3MM. I seriously took it as a joke, because he should know better.
Ok, so this is Herms's translation of the line, from the script: - Resurrection F Script
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Freeza: “Is that so surprising? In my estimation, if I train hard for 4 months then…I should acquire a battle power of 1.30 million…”
Welp, thankfully Resurrection F will only loosely be followed in Super. What if he meant aquire it on top of the battle power he already has? Or would still not be enough? Nah. Cell saga everyone was 30x stronger than that. Idk. Makes no sense
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Jun 21 2015, 05:33 PM
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I cannot wait for this movie!
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Jun 21 2015, 07:30 PM
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Is anyone going to Anime Expo for the dub premiere?
where is it
Anime Expo is gonna have the premier!? Oh man, I have to find a way to go!
wheres that sorry never heard of it Los Angeles. It's not far from the first premiere location.
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