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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,102 Views)
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It's just a bit of cockney rhyming slang. We're not discussing quantum physics, this is just DragonBall silliness. No need to take it or yourself quite so seriously.
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So goku and vegeta can't turn into the gold haired ssj anymore right?
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Ssj3vegito96
May 18 2015, 04:11 PM
So goku and vegeta can't turn into the gold haired ssj anymore right?
I'm not sure. I'd imagine they can, but SSJGSSJ is just better so why even use SSJ anymore?
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May 18 2015, 04:33 PM
Ssj3vegito96
May 18 2015, 04:11 PM
So goku and vegeta can't turn into the gold haired ssj anymore right?
I'm not sure. I'd imagine they can, but SSJGSSJ is just better so why even use SSJ anymore?
Easy, time efficient way to get a different look without the mess or cost of hair dye?
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When are they ever gonna need blonde hair tho :lol: ?
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You never know what style might be "in" in the dbz world next
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Wait WTF???

Frieza is stronger than Super-Boo? I thought he was only stronger than Bills.
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May 18 2015, 08:04 PM
Wait WTF???

Frieza is stronger than Super-Boo? I thought he was only stronger than Bills.
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Did you leave your brain inside your other hat today, sir?
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May 18 2015, 08:56 PM
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My butt is a little hurt.

However, 'a dream come true for fans' is probably just marketing speech. As much as I love DragonBall, it's never been particularly complicated and what has sold well in the past is 'oh no everyone is beaten, what will our heroes do?! Oh look Goku's here yippeeeeeeeeeee!' and I imagine it'll continue to do well maintaining that paradigm. Plus, Toriyama is probably first and foremost concerned with the Japanese fans and they are mad for Goku and less excited about Vegeta than a lot of people are in the west.

You made some good points about Vegeta getting his time to shine in this movie...but that's just it, is this as much shine as he gets? Even in a film resurrecting his most personal adversary, which Toriyama hinted at being a move where 'Vegeta takes the main role'. Even in that scenario Vegeta gets one upped by Goku. Vegeta literally didn't need to be there. Have Krillin give Goku the sensu bean and he'd be right as rain to beat Freeza the second time. Vegeta isn't the hero, he doesn't get the main portion of the fight and he regresses from any character advances he made in BOG (giving up his pride).

I got my hopes up but I can't help but feel that Goku will be more significant than Vegeta and anyone else no matter what the situation.
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1. We just have to wait to see what the series brings. I'm pretty hyped

2. I don't see why this is the most we will see from vegeta. Eventually I think vegeta will get a legit victory here and there but yeah I think goku will always be more of the main hero overall. I think there's a lot pointing to that. Vegeta has been getting a bigger role since BOG, gohan is weak as f***, and vegeta just wiped the floor with Frieza, is going through the same stuff goku is going through, and is pretty much just as much of the main character as goku is now. Vegeta getting a victory is bound to happen sooner or later. At the moment, all we've seen is building up to it imo. Even then though you're right goku=dragon ball
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I don't think anyone answered this the last time I asked. Was the entire thing a test for goku and vegeta? Why couldn't beerus or whis intervene? Either one could've wrecked him
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May 19 2015, 04:04 AM
I don't think anyone answered this the last time I asked. Was the entire thing a test for goku and vegeta? Why couldn't beerus or whis intervene? Either one could've wrecked him
They spend their lives destroying populated worlds. I guess they're just nonchalant about the whole life and death scenario thing.

And my point about this film not being a good indicator for Vegeta's future is that this was by far the very best opportunity to give Vegeta the main fight/victory/overall role and he is still less significant than Goku. I'm not saying I want Vegeta to overtake Goku or even equal him in significance overall. But if Toriyama (or Toei more likely) can't bring themselves to sit Goku properly on the sidelines for Vegeta's worst, most personal enemy, then how can I expect them to give anyone a significant victory in the series other than Goku?

Perhaps by sheer volume of episodes (over 100 I believe) Vegeta, Gohan etc will get to do more significant things in Super, as there'll be more time to do it. But I reckon their roles will consist of comic relief, stalling, defeating second tier villains or providing inspiration/training for Goku to power up to new heights so that he can then provide the finishing blow for the main adversaries...again and again and again.
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hey guys...a new clip appeared on dailymotion...it shows the full fight with goku, frieza and vegeta...it also shows when frieza blows up the planet and beerus goes back in time. the quality is prett bad but the clip has also english subtitles
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May 19 2015, 12:08 PM
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May 19 2015, 04:04 AM
I don't think anyone answered this the last time I asked. Was the entire thing a test for goku and vegeta? Why couldn't beerus or whis intervene? Either one could've wrecked him
They spend their lives destroying populated worlds. I guess they're just nonchalant about the whole life and death scenario thing.

And my point about this film not being a good indicator for Vegeta's future is that this was by far the very best opportunity to give Vegeta the main fight/victory/overall role and he is still less significant than Goku. I'm not saying I want Vegeta to overtake Goku or even equal him in significance overall. But if Toriyama (or Toei more likely) can't bring themselves to sit Goku properly on the sidelines for Vegeta's worst, most personal enemy, then how can I expect them to give anyone a significant victory in the series other than Goku?

Perhaps by sheer volume of episodes (over 100 I believe) Vegeta, Gohan etc will get to do more significant things in Super, as there'll be more time to do it. But I reckon their roles will consist of comic relief, stalling, defeating second tier villains or providing inspiration/training for Goku to power up to new heights so that he can then provide the finishing blow for the main adversaries...again and again and again.
You get the sense that Vegeta is being built up for someone greater in this film. So it is entirely possible that while you did not get exactly what you wanted from him in this film, you will in the series (or next film if there is one).

Beerus states he is impartial, as is his duty as God of Destruction, and will not intervene. Whis did it for Earth's delicious food, and because he was teaching Goku and Vegeta a lesson.
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