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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,112 Views)
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May 1 2015, 03:33 PM
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May 1 2015, 01:13 PM
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May 1 2015, 01:06 PM
Sorry for asking this if it was already answered, but is Golden Frieza stronger than both SSJGSSJ Vegeta and Goku? If so could he take on Beerus have it not been for stamina problems?

Sorry again :) .
Golden Freeza is stronger than SSJGSSJ Goku and Vegeta, but weaker than Beerus.
Do we know how much weaker?
No, we just know Freeza was faring better than Goku at first.
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I forget, when does Freeza acknowledge Beerus' presence? If it's a little while into the fight, then he wouldn't have to be that much weaker.
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May 1 2015, 04:32 PM
I forget, when does Freeza acknowledge Beerus' presence? If it's a little while into the fight, then he wouldn't have to be that much weaker.
We should be getting an updated synopsis sometime this week according to Herms, so I'm sure that'll be made clearer in this updated synopsis.
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DBZ went full retarded during the buu saga... now I don't even think it has a brain to function.


.... So is gohan gonna become an SSJGSSJ2 in the next movie?

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May 1 2015, 04:32 PM
I forget, when does Freeza acknowledge Beerus' presence? If it's a little while into the fight, then he wouldn't have to be that much weaker.
It's a bit into the fight. Around the time Goku stalls, if I recall correctly.

Beerus is still stronger than Frieza.
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May 1 2015, 05:06 PM
DBZ went full retarded during the buu saga... now I don't even think it has a brain to function.


.... So is gohan gonna become an SSJGSSJ2 in the next movie?

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Never, Because it's always Goku time now, not Gohan time.
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Goku vs Freeza (not SSJGSSJ Goku)

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Detailed summary, yo!
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/movie/revival-of-f/summary/
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Wait how does Frieza know Bulma? Wonder if an extended edition will tell why Trunks or Goten didn't sense any of this. Lastly Bulma say to go full power but Gohan goes SSJ? Aww man :( . No more Mystic?

I'm sad :(
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Well, there's always the possibility that ascending to the mightiest warrior results in Super Saiyajin now. I mean, one if it's advantages was powering up without transforming, so maybe that expired due to a lack of upkeep.
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Freeza remembers her, but is curious where her friend Son Goku is

Freeza has never met Bulma. Inconsistency.
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Goku supposes there was no other way, since he can’t sense their ki to teleport here.

Goku used the Shunkan Idou against Beerus after SSJ God expired in Battle of Gods. Inconsistency.

Ugh, I know these are minor, but I can't help but be annoyed here. The concept of god Ki is ALREADY being contradicted...
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May 2 2015, 10:32 PM
That was a great read.

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Well, there's always the possibility that ascending to the mightiest warrior results in Super Saiyajin now. I mean, one if it's advantages was powering up without transforming, so maybe that expired due to a lack of upkeep.
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Freeza remembers her, but is curious where her friend Son Goku is

Freeza has never met Bulma. Inconsistency.
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Goku supposes there was no other way, since he can’t sense their ki to teleport here.

Goku used the Shunkan Idou against Beerus after SSJ God expired in Battle of Gods. Inconsistency.

Ugh, I know these are minor, but I can't help but be annoyed here. The concept of god Ki is ALREADY being contradicted...
Is it possible that you only need to sense ki for instant transmission if your target location is out of your view? I always thought you needed a ki to sense to avoid teleporting somewhere deadly, like into a planet of in the middle of space.
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So has Frieza abondened his "in-between" forms, like they don't exist anymore, because he can control his power now?

Or did he just decide not to use them in the movie?
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May 3 2015, 02:58 AM
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Well, there's always the possibility that ascending to the mightiest warrior results in Super Saiyajin now. I mean, one if it's advantages was powering up without transforming, so maybe that expired due to a lack of upkeep.
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Freeza remembers her, but is curious where her friend Son Goku is

Freeza has never met Bulma. Inconsistency.
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Goku supposes there was no other way, since he can’t sense their ki to teleport here.

Goku used the Shunkan Idou against Beerus after SSJ God expired in Battle of Gods. Inconsistency.

Ugh, I know these are minor, but I can't help but be annoyed here. The concept of god Ki is ALREADY being contradicted...
Is it possible that you only need to sense ki for instant transmission if your target location is out of your view? I always thought you needed a ki to sense to avoid teleporting somewhere deadly, like into a planet of in the middle of space.
No, you can only use the Shunkan Ido when locked onto a Ki signature, meaning post god Goku in Battle of Gods could sense Beerus's Ki.
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A technique that Goku learned from the aliens that live on Planet Yardrat, which he visited by chance when he escaped from Planet Namek. This form of teleportation senses a person's ki, and then moves to where that person is. Because of this, it is impossible to move anywhere that does not have people or ki which one knows. Cell remembered this way of moving when he teleported with Goku. This technique is not just used for moving, but can also be included in offensive techniques.
http://web.archive.org/web/20111103183031/http://kanzentai.com/trans-daiz07.php?m=04&id=attack_s-u#shunkan-ido
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But if that truly means it's absolutely necessary for IT all the time, it leads to a few inconsistencies. In the Son Goku and Friends Return special (Which, according to BoG, is canon), Goku teleported to the middle of a farm that had no noticeable lifeforms on it. Either Goku can sense and teleport to aphids, or there are circumstances where a ki isn't necessary. If that's not enough for you, you could just pretend Goku has a limited version of instantaneous movement, which is the same thing as IT without the ki sensing requirement.
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