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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,113 Views)
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May 1 2015, 07:06 AM
People are taking the Sorbet ring thing way too seriously. It's just some powerful super weapon that was used for the plot. It wasn't meant as a feat or something like that. It was to show Goku's overconfidence, not the weakness of his body.
Plot>Power levels/VS feats.
If anything it would just be PIS.
Freeza makes it clear that Sorbet's attack wasn't anything special.
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The villains should have really tried to kill Goku in is sleep at some point then. Or whilst he's eating.
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May 1 2015, 12:07 PM
The villains should have really tried to kill Goku in is sleep at some point then. Or whilst he's eating.
Good luck with that. Part of the reason Sorbet's attack was successful was because it was artificial energy. In other words, it couldn't be sensed.
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Sorry for asking this if it was already answered, but is Golden Frieza stronger than both SSJGSSJ Vegeta and Goku? If so could he take on Beerus have it not been for stamina problems?

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May 1 2015, 01:06 PM
Sorry for asking this if it was already answered, but is Golden Frieza stronger than both SSJGSSJ Vegeta and Goku? If so could he take on Beerus have it not been for stamina problems?

Sorry again :) .
Golden Freeza is stronger than SSJGSSJ Goku and Vegeta, but weaker than Beerus.
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Being caught off guard by a much weaker attack has always been a thing. Like when Piccolo blasted Nappa's back and hurt him, despite the fact Nappa would easily tank such a hit if he knew it was coming.
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May 1 2015, 01:13 PM
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May 1 2015, 01:06 PM
Sorry for asking this if it was already answered, but is Golden Frieza stronger than both SSJGSSJ Vegeta and Goku? If so could he take on Beerus have it not been for stamina problems?

Sorry again :) .
Golden Freeza is stronger than SSJGSSJ Goku and Vegeta, but weaker than Beerus.
They can't keep it up for that long, unless AT wants to contradict his own numbers. At some point there should be an enemy that surpasses both Bills & Whis or it'd be too limiting.

And what's the point if technically in every movie Whis could be the deus ex machina to save everyone?
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I'm sort of hoping Whis makes the reverse time thing a one time thing. It's not like he's truly a good guy, he's the assistant to the God of destruction. He shouldn't care if planets get destroyed and people die (unless it's Beerus).
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May 1 2015, 01:30 PM
I'm sort of hoping Whis makes the reverse time thing a one time thing. It's not like he's truly a good guy, he's the assistant to the God of destruction. He shouldn't care if planets get destroyed and people die (unless it's Beerus).
Right, but he enjoys the food. I don't see Whis letting the Earth stay destroyed.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

So where do we rank everyone now because I was under the impression that Golden Pants Freeza was equal to Bluper Saiyan Goku/Vegeta, but apparently Golden Sunshine here is actually stronger.

SSJ God Goku alone was already nearing 70% of Beerus full power, Blueper Saiyan Goku is even stronger and now Golden Freeza is stronger than that. I'm inferring that if Golden Freeza is weaker than Beerus, it can't be by much.
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I place everyone here:

Goku(Post God): 1.2
-SSJGSSJ: 7.2

Vegeta(Post God): 1.2
-SSJGSSJ: 7.2

Beerus: 10

Whis: 15

Freeza: 1
-Golden: 8
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I'd say Goku surpasses Beerus, Beerus was not that far ahead of SSJG to begin with.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Damn Freeza, how does that feel? You get wished back to life after suffering in Hell. Then you get a new transformation that's not only more powerful than a Ice Cold Frosty Goku but apparently so much more that you can essentially whoop his monkey tail and then you go as far as to blow up the entire planet right under Vegeta's nose.

...And you still lose.

That's amazing, even when the guy is winning, when he's stronger and kicking his opponents butt, he still loses. And it has nothing to do with his opponents getting stronger, he literally just has the worst luck.

Super new Golden Form? Loses too much stamina.

Blow up the planet? Whis brings his TARDIS.

I mean, its not like we expected Freeza to win, but its amazing how much was stacked against the guy despite so many advantages in the movie at the same time. That's just bad luck.
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May 1 2015, 02:40 PM
I'd say Goku surpasses Beerus, Beerus was not that far ahead of SSJG to begin with.
Freeza would like to have a word with you. It's clear by Freeza's expression that he's still weaker than Beerus, and by extension, Goku and Vegeta still are.
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May 1 2015, 01:13 PM
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May 1 2015, 01:06 PM
Sorry for asking this if it was already answered, but is Golden Frieza stronger than both SSJGSSJ Vegeta and Goku? If so could he take on Beerus have it not been for stamina problems?

Sorry again :) .
Golden Freeza is stronger than SSJGSSJ Goku and Vegeta, but weaker than Beerus.
Do we know how much weaker?
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