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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,127 Views)
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Liking or disliking something is subjective. You can only have something be bad because of opinion.
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Apr 18 2015, 11:01 PM
Liking or disliking something is subjective. You can only have something be bad because of opinion.
This is true, but unless something doesn't make sense when comparing to the manga, they are not good reasons in my opinion. "Uninspired transformations", tell me something... How could they have done it? Like GT?
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Gohan randomly being piss weak is certainly a flaw that goes against the manga.

As for the other reasons, they are meh, but are still valid.
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Apr 18 2015, 11:10 PM
Gohan randomly being piss weak is certainly a flaw that goes against the manga.

As for the other reasons, they are meh, but are still valid.
Could be explained with that he might've lost his potential unlock.
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Apr 18 2015, 11:12 PM
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Gohan randomly being piss weak is certainly a flaw that goes against the manga.

As for the other reasons, they are meh, but are still valid.
Could be explained with that he might've lost his potential unlock.
But why would he lose power that is rightfully his? It makes no sense to me.

I also agree with lazer's points about Whis and the Freeza soldiers. Turning back time is annoying because you know that nothing really matters. And the soldiers should not be as strong as they are portrayed to be.
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No sense compared to the manga? Freeza's Soldiers were at about 1,000, yet Roshi can take them down with ease. What's with the sudden power boost? Why are the humans allowed to be there but not Goten and Trunks?

Any transformation would be better than changing their color in such a way that it might as well make the alternate costumes in the game transformations.

Why put constraints on "valid" reasons? It's a movie, not an academic paper. Every opinion could be subjective and it wouldn't matter, it would still be valid because it's a movie and they affect what I think of it.
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Apr 18 2015, 11:14 PM
Turning back time is annoying because you know that nothing really matters.
When was the last time anything in DBZ had consequences?
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Since always. The Dragonballs could be deactivated or controlled by the villain and Trunks made split timelines.
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Apr 18 2015, 11:19 PM
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Turning back time is annoying because you know that nothing really matters.
When was the last time anything in DBZ had consequences?
That's my point. We already have the DBs to erase any mistakes, but now we have another method. It's not needed.
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Apr 18 2015, 11:14 PM
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Apr 18 2015, 11:12 PM
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Apr 18 2015, 11:10 PM
Gohan randomly being piss weak is certainly a flaw that goes against the manga.

As for the other reasons, they are meh, but are still valid.
Could be explained with that he might've lost his potential unlock.
But why would he lose power that is rightfully his? It makes no sense to me.

I also agree with lazer's points about Whis and the Freeza soldiers. Turning back time is annoying because you know that nothing really matters. And the soldiers should not be as strong as they are portrayed to be.


Because he didn't train. You lose potential when you stay off fighting. The turning back time thing isn't really that extensive. He can only go back a certain amount, so I doubt it'll be used much in the future. But I agree it's silly for Goku to save the day again.

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Apr 18 2015, 11:15 PM
No sense compared to the manga? Freeza's Soldiers were at about 1,000, yet Roshi can take them down with ease. What's with the sudden power boost? Why are the humans allowed to be there but not Goten and Trunks?

Any transformation would be better than changing their color in such a way that it might as well make the alternate costumes in the game transformations.

Why put constraints on "valid" reasons? It's a movie, not an academic paper. Every opinion could be subjective and it wouldn't matter, it would still be valid because it's a movie and they affect what I think of it.


Roshi might've gotten a power boost from some place. It might be explained (sekzee can confirm, probably), but even if it isn't explained you can easily think Popo trained him like he trained the other humans.

It's the natural progression when it comes to heat though. That's the way it's portrayed anyway.
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Apr 18 2015, 11:21 PM
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Turning back time is annoying because you know that nothing really matters.
When was the last time anything in DBZ had consequences?
That's my point. We already have the DBs to erase any mistakes, but now we have another method. It's not needed.
It at least streamlines the process. Going to Namek is just unnecessary crap that would hurt the pacing. The result (for the plot) is the same either way.
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If Freeza destroys the Earth, the Dragonballs of Earth can't help them. The Namekian ones could but...wait

Why did they need Whis to time travel anyway? They could just ask the Namekians to restore Earth, teleport them to Earth, then revive everyone on Earth. There we go, another reason to dislike the film, plotholes.

Whis is more convenient, I guess. That could explain it
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My Dear Melancholy,

I see many Japanese review sites giving this bad to average reviews :(. I've only seen 3 sites with 8/10 and up. Aww man. Sucks they didn't enjoy it. But I'm going to love it! As I love everything!

Icee SSJ! Can't wait :)
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I'm gonna enjoy it aswell because it's Dragonball Z, something I've enjoyed since I was 15 and recognized as entertainment much like the Expendable movies. I don't expect it to take down many big awards or get critical acclaim. My expectations are 'Dragonball Z' and not necessarily 'a great movie'.
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Am I the only one that finds the new transformation to be absolutely horrendous? The hair color doesn't fit any of them at all.
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