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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,133 Views)
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Apr 13 2015, 05:29 PM
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Apr 13 2015, 05:07 PM
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Apr 13 2015, 03:38 PM
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Apr 13 2015, 05:43 AM
Maybe my evaluation will change once I properly see the movie...but from the synopsis and reviews...this movies sounds awful. I don't mean like Freeza wearing golden pants or Bluper Saiyan. I mean like...badly written, badly directed, badly produced movie and not in your typical bland DBZ movie kind of way.

I mean like, rushed bad with nothing good in it. You have apparently have these horrible CGI scenes which would be bad enough. But you put them on what is probably the most iconic scene of the movie? Between Bluper Goku and Golden Freeza? I mean, don't you want to have the most focus and best animation process for what may be the most important scene and fight of the movie?

And now music? I can understand that at some points you would want some silence here and there and I won't begrudge you on that. But goodness it seems like half the movie has no music. And it has no music on what seems to be the best parts, Goku and Vegeta's fights with Freeza. Like I'd imagine an almost triumphant fanfare as Vegtea beats on Freeza or something.

I remember how much this was done in the Original Japanese where there was a lot of silence and I hated it. Say what you want about the Funimation Dub but it put emotions in the scenes and really brought your energy up. It's something that was definitely improved when Kai came around and the Japanese version started using a lot more music.

I mean some music in. Unless you use something stupid, its not going to hurt. In fact it would enhance the scene. Get some action music for an action scene. I can understand wanting some silence here and there but use them for basic, unimportant scenes, not for your major fight scene.

And then at the end, we have our heroes. Goku and Vegeta, pretty much saying that though they could have teamed up and finished things quickly instead bulls*** pride excuse. Ahem...not that its a...nice subject to bring up. But wasn't the whole thing with Vegeta attacking Cell about denying his pride and fighting for the sake of his son who died? No? Fair enough? What about the part where he sacrifices himself to stop Majin Boo for the sake of his family? That was his Saiyan Pride speaking again? Goodness knows your such a tough book to read Vegeta.

...Ummm? How much pride did Vegeta have when he began singing and dancing Bingo? Was that Saiyan Pride? Vegeta would you like us to take responsibility and make a Genki-Dama for you and chuck it at Freeza?

God! I'm sorry, I'm really sorry and I really want to like this movie just as a typical DBZ movie. I was so excited when Freeza was coming back because I recognize him as a great villain. But this movie, this synopsis, these reviews, every time I read them, I just think how awful and rushed this movie seems to be and I really hope I'm wrong.
If you go in with a rock up your a***, you may come out with a boulder.

Although the movie did transition rather quickly, it was funny, entertaining, and action-packed. My brother and I thoroughly enjoyed it and we have been watching DB/DBZ/DBGT since we were 4 or 5.

20-something years later and we were cracking up! As a matter of fact, the entire audience was!
Well unlike you simple folks who can be mindlessly entertained by keys on a chain. I actually like effort.

Not a badly CGI, music-less, golden pants wearing, 2nd player alternate blue haired Super Saiyan and badly written characterization of a movie.

This is good entertainment? Get real! This better be some damn good animation and stuff, with some excellent, balls dropping fight scenes and stuff. Because everything else here from the simple character designs to the story telling and the way they've treated Goku and Vegeta's character sounds awful.

This movie came out because:

1.) BOG was successful enough

2.) Toriyama heard some Japanese metal ban screaming "Freeza!" and decided he was going to make an entire movie just from listening to that.

This really just says how low you guys have set the bar to think this counts as a good entertainment when we know Toriyama can do so much better.
Get off your high horse, princess.

No one here is mindlessly entertained. I was even slightly disappointed after reading the synopsis, but went into the movie with an open mind. I am telling you, the synopsis on Kanzenshuu does not do the movie justice.

If you haven't seen the movie, I suggest you keep your claims to fact as your opinion and yours alone.

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Get off your high horse, did I not already say that I could do a proper evaluation once I saw the movie? But its pretty clear that if the synopsis and reviews are anything on what the movie is like, this is not a good movie. It's mindless entertainment at best and not worth coming after BOG.
Here's a thought...

You're entitled to your opinion. But none of us are going to listen to it or take it seriously because all you're really doing is b*tching and moaning, and shoving your opinion on the movie up our butts when you haven't even watched it. It wasn't what you wanted it to be, followed to the letter, so it's just one big load of garbage to you. For me. Your opinion is the kind that is better off ignored. Pretty much all of us know what DB/DBZ is, we watched it all and we know what it looked like, and the stories or plots are all well known to us all. You're going on about how BoG, and this movie are so much different than anything before it. But it's not a right assessment or even an accurate one. You are just basing it off what people have said about the movie, and most that have voiced an opinion, did not see it. Those that have watched it, they're disagreeing with you as well. It's just not a valid view on the movies man, because you're just talking about things you have no actual, factual knowledge on yet, until you see the movie.

It's sh*t, it's sh*t, is what you are saying. You cannot fairly judge something until you watch it. Plain and simple.

Keep your opinion to yourself if you're not going to see the movie. If you want to be taken seriously. See the movie, then express your opinion on it. But don't come here and trash it when you haven't even watched it. I don't want to scroll through that crap. I'm sure a lot of us don't.

And another thing? Don't come here telling us that we don't know what good entertainment is, you pompous, presumptuous a***. You're insulting our intelligence. If people enjoy this movie. Don't f*cking judge them for it. They can enjoy or like what they want. Your opinion is about as good as sh*t on the bottom of a boot right now.

I get so irritated when people like you come along and want to piss all over everyone else's fun just because you don't approve of what's being celebrated.

Keep that pompous attitude and opinion of yours to yourself.

EDIT:

This has already been resolved and there appear to be no hard feelings. I replied after reading the first negative thing Dark Matter wrote and the posts that followed. So I apologize.
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The angry one was poked with a cattle prod, so he attacked.

Angry one was me.
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how much days til the release?
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The angry one was poked with a cattle prod, so he attacked.

Angry one was me.
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@420BlazeIt: 14 days, it seems.
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haha i like your @420BlazeIt comment. guess it must be somewhat true on account i keep forgetting the date. haha jk in all seriousness i can not wait. i like blueper saiyan :)
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It's mindless entertainment at best
Has DB/Z ever been anything but that? It's one of the most shallow works ever; all of the villains and most of the heroes are one-note characters with no depth, the morality and lessons are dime store shonen fare, the fights are all basically the same with only slight deviations from time to time, most of the story arcs could have been solved trivially, but were pushed along by ostensibly intelligent characters making stupid decisions, or ostensibly good characters making evil decisions.

The core of Goku's character is that he likes to fight, the core of Vegeta's character is that he likes to fight and he's arrogant. The only reason they were given these traits was so that threat-less enemies (2nd form Cell, Pure Boo, Fat Boo, Babidi's underlings) could somehow be made legitimate. Just so that things could happen. That's no way to write a story. DBZ doesn't just have lots of PIS, it thrives on PIS.
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When you get to a point in your life in which you feel the need to over-analyze and bash a show you enjoyed while growing up, you either need to stop watching or ask yourself why you feel the need to criticize it to a point that takes the enjoyment out of it.

Find something better to do.
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So did Frieza's normal form get any stronger or did he only get a new transformation through training?
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Apr 15 2015, 05:50 PM
So did Frieza's normal form get any stronger or did he only get a new transformation through training?
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So did Frieza's normal form get any stronger or did he only get a new transformation through training?
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So did Frieza's normal form get any stronger or did he only get a new transformation through training?
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Goku absorbed SSJ God in the last film.
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So did Frieza's normal form get any stronger or did he only get a new transformation through training?
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Goku absorbed SSJ God in the last film.
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So did Frieza's normal form get any stronger or did he only get a new transformation through training?
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Goku absorbed SSJ God in the last film.
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The new form is described as Super Saiyajin with the power of Super Saiyajin God. To me that means Goku can't access SSJ God's full potential without going SSJ God, and combing SSJ with SSJ God allows him to maintain that power.
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Apr 15 2015, 05:43 PM
When you get to a point in your life in which you feel the need to over-analyze and bash a show you enjoyed while growing up, you either need to stop watching or ask yourself why you feel the need to criticize it to a point that takes the enjoyment out of it.

Find something better to do.
I never watched DBZ growing up.

Anyway, I doubt I'll like the movie, but I really like the new art style, so it should be a decent watch. Better than the Toei ones at least.
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