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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,154 Views)
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Sure Goku was a prodigy, but he did learn basic martial arts from his grandfather. Krillin learned it at the monastary he grew up in. Roshi only needed to make them stronger and faster, which he did.
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Sure Goku was a prodigy, but he did learn basic martial arts from his grandfather. Krillin learned it at the monastary he grew up in. Roshi only needed to make them stronger and faster, which he did.
And who exactly trained Yamcha or Yajirobe or even Videl for that matter? They were all natural word class fighters without any basic training.
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Apr 7 2015, 12:09 AM
Sure Goku was a prodigy, but he did learn basic martial arts from his grandfather. Krillin learned it at the monastary he grew up in. Roshi only needed to make them stronger and faster, which he did.
And who exactly trained Yamcha or Yajirobe or even Videl for that matter? They were all natural word class fighters without any basic training.
Yamcha was more of a brawler at first, but soon got into martial arts training on his own inspired by Goku. Yajirobe was a samurai, probably trained in some sort of environment. Videl was Mr. Satan's daughter, that's enough to begin training martial arts in the city.
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Apr 6 2015, 10:43 PM
So what, did he just sit there doing vision training or something? That seems out of character for someone as paranoid as he is about random legends
No he either just watched his father and picked it up, kinda like Goku picked up the Kamehameha, or he practiced, which wouldn't necessarily make him stronger.
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This whole "Freeza never trained in his life" thing has gotten me thinking of this quote:

Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Cold: “The Earthlings don’t matter, but the Super Saiyan alone we absolutely must exterminate, by any means. The one who holds the greatest power in the universe must without a doubt be our clan”
Freeza: “We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I’ve powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone.”


Can we confirm the power-up comes from the mechanical replacements on his body?
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Apr 7 2015, 12:25 AM
This whole "Freeza never trained in his life" thing has gotten me thinking of this quote:

Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Cold: “The Earthlings don’t matter, but the Super Saiyan alone we absolutely must exterminate, by any means. The one who holds the greatest power in the universe must without a doubt be our clan”
Freeza: “We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I’ve powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone.”


Can we confirm the power-up comes from the mechanical replacements on his body?
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Freeza, who has never trained before in his life, believes that if he trains for a few months, he will be able to surpass even that Saiyan…!
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So basically, this movie was a bridge to the next one, because it focused on some characters learning about themselves instead of furthering the overall plot? I'm not terribly mad about that, but eh.
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Just because it's been retconned into plot doesn't make it any better, kind of like the thing with Boo
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The thing with Boo is still something I can't seem to bring myself to accept. Why would the Kaioshin people be so ignorant to something like that? Even the guidebooks support what's in the manga. I don't see why Toriyama had to go and pull something out of his left butt cheek like that. It serves no purpose but to make his characters look stupid.
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I guess he thought being something from the beginning of time was cooler than being created by the dumbest villain in the whole series.
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That's on him, but me personally, I wouldn't want to f*** my fans in the a*** like that. At least not without some kind of foreplay.
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Still pissed about no Goten.
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Don't worry. In the next movie, Gohan will be hungover and Vegeta will get stuck doing the dishes.
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Apr 7 2015, 01:46 AM
I guess he thought being something from the beginning of time was cooler than being created by the dumbest villain in the whole series.
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^ Revived in Movie 16.
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I do wonder if Toriyama wouldn't mind adding Cooler in with a one-off comment or something.
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