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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,159 Views)
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As long as this movie is better than BOG. Don't get me wrong I did somewhat enjoy BOG but I want the gritty dbz back. BOG was way too lighthearted and the fight scenes were not that great. This movie seems like it fixes those two issues. The action supposedly is awesome and it seems much darker. I don't care if the story isn't there. It wasn't there in BOG or the rest of the dbz movies
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Vegeta nervously declining. Goku and Vegeta fighting over who will face Frieza. Maybe these two lines shouldn't be taken literal. I mean, they are from a fan written synopsis.
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SaiyaJedi is also the head translator for Kanzenshuu so I think we can trust him. Furthermore, those instances aren't contradictory as Vegeta fights for a turn before Freeza transforms, and nervously declines afterward.
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Apr 2 2015, 11:27 PM
One more thing...

Goku and Vegeta are not heroes in the traditional sense.
Doesn't stop them from being unlikable jerks. Same reason why Punisher gets a lot of flak
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Honestly, Goku in particular is acting like his usual self and yet only now people seem to have a problem with him <_< . I can understand being annoyed with him being a victory hog, but gloating? Goku's always been a smug little bastard when the conditions presented themselves properly. This is really nothing new.
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Perhaps he's finally been doing it enough to where it becomes a tired act.
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Apr 3 2015, 01:13 AM
Perhaps he's finally been doing it enough to where it becomes a tired act.
You usually don't like smug bastards at all, so really don't think that applies to you, unless you've never really liked Goku. That being said, fair enough.
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My issue is when protagonists do it.

Like, a villain being played smugly is fun. I mean, you're supposed to love to hate them. With heroes, that's not the case. In Goku and Vegeta's case, you're supposed to sympathize with them, not be rooting for the villain for taking their inflated egos down a peg.

No, I did not always dislike Goku. But you must admit, Goku became far more douchey as time went on. Especially in the Boo and Cell Saga
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You see, I like smug characters, especially when they're winners :cool:
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can someone tell me what gohan and piccolo do? how does there fights go
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Piccolo is KO'ed by a random goon, Gohan is KO'ed by first form Freeza.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

While you can call them the same thing perhaps, I like to differentiate between "smugness" and "arrogant" Although I could word it better, what I mean to say is simply that an arrogant character is someone who talks a big game and is liked because of it. Smugness is when one talks a big game and people don't like it.

You know people like it when Vegeta's being an arrogant man, flaunting his power on ones like No. 19, Semi-Cell or Pui-Pui. These guys come off as smug in many cases and with little likable traits to them. But when Vegeta starts talking s*** about No. 18 who has done nothing wrong and is just their to flaunt his ego, we don't like him. He's an obnoxious bastard who needs to be taught a lesson.

Its hard to tell for me how much smugness or even arrogance is in Goku, but there this huge array of just idiocy that I don't even know he's aware of myself..
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The problem with Vegeta is that half the time he makes a comment about his power, he can't back it up. He then proceeds to get his face planted into the ground.

Goku doesn't suffer the same consequences, but he still does act reckless and seemingly without care for anyone but himself
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Apr 3 2015, 01:36 AM
Piccolo is KO'ed by a random goon, Gohan is KO'ed by first form Freeza.
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brb goahn and piccolo are now weaklings

sick........
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Apr 3 2015, 01:36 AM
Piccolo is KO'ed by a random goon, Gohan is KO'ed by first form Freeza.
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brb goahn and piccolo are now weaklings

sick........
Piccolo has been weak since the Cell Games....
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