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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,163 Views)
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Apr 2 2015, 06:31 PM
So Goku can still go SSJG (the one with red hair)?

Like when he absorbed Beerus blast and the blue SSJG is just a step above
No, he cannot. Not by will anyway.
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Apr 2 2015, 07:03 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Apr 2 2015, 06:07 PM
To answer everyone's questions regarding blueper Saiyajin, it's SSJ + SSJ God. What Goku did in Battle of Gods was go SSJ after absorbing it. This confirms Goku and Vegeta can use SSJ God of their own free will and combine it with SSJ to make a more powerful transformation.
So is this new form 50x stronger than ssj God?
No, most likely not seeing as how Whis is still stronger.
sekzee
 
No, he cannot. Not by will anyway.

He did in Battle of Gods to stop Beerus's attack, soooooo....
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I don't even know what's going on anymore. .all these damn forms it's getting ridiculous. So what have I missed? I'm still on god form.. what the hell now?

SSJ + SSJ God happened.
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Apr 2 2015, 07:14 PM
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Apr 2 2015, 07:03 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Apr 2 2015, 06:07 PM
To answer everyone's questions regarding blueper Saiyajin, it's SSJ + SSJ God. What Goku did in Battle of Gods was go SSJ after absorbing it. This confirms Goku and Vegeta can use SSJ God of their own free will and combine it with SSJ to make a more powerful transformation.
So is this new form 50x stronger than ssj God?
No, most likely not seeing as how Whis is still stronger.
sekzee
 
No, he cannot. Not by will anyway.

He did in Battle of Gods to stop Beerus's attack, soooooo....
Did we watch the same movie?

He didn't even know what he did. He did not consciously do that himself.
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Apr 2 2015, 07:22 PM
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Apr 2 2015, 07:03 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Apr 2 2015, 06:07 PM
To answer everyone's questions regarding blueper Saiyajin, it's SSJ + SSJ God. What Goku did in Battle of Gods was go SSJ after absorbing it. This confirms Goku and Vegeta can use SSJ God of their own free will and combine it with SSJ to make a more powerful transformation.
So is this new form 50x stronger than ssj God?
No, most likely not seeing as how Whis is still stronger.
sekzee
 
No, he cannot. Not by will anyway.

He did in Battle of Gods to stop Beerus's attack, soooooo....
Did we watch the same movie?

He didn't even know what he did. He did not consciously do that himself.
Maybe not consciously, but my point is that he can use it without the help of everyone else anymore. Clearly he figured out how to consciously use it later on since he has to combine it with SSJ to make blueper Saiyajin.
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But we don't even know that yet. He simply said it's SSJ fused with SSJG ki.

That's not the same as maintaining the SSJG state and transforming into a SSJ.
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sekzee
Apr 2 2015, 07:26 PM
But we don't even know that yet. He simply said it's SSJ fused with SSJG ki.

That's not the same as maintaining the SSJG state and transforming into a SSJ.
And how does he access SSJ God Ki without using SSJ God?
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So,now there is a Blue SSJG? Interesting...... well at this rate they might as well complete the ROYGBIV series :) .
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Apr 2 2015, 07:28 PM
sekzee
Apr 2 2015, 07:26 PM
But we don't even know that yet. He simply said it's SSJ fused with SSJG ki.

That's not the same as maintaining the SSJG state and transforming into a SSJ.
And how does he access SSJ God Ki without using SSJ God?
The same way he was able to continue to fight Beerus after he was no longer in the SSJG state...by absorbing [some of] its power.
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Apr 2 2015, 07:48 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
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sekzee
Apr 2 2015, 07:26 PM
But we don't even know that yet. He simply said it's SSJ fused with SSJG ki.

That's not the same as maintaining the SSJG state and transforming into a SSJ.
And how does he access SSJ God Ki without using SSJ God?
The same way he was able to continue to fight Beerus after he was no longer in the SSJG state...by absorbing [some of] its power.
Why is his hair not blue in Battle of Gods when he goes SSJ, then?
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Apr 2 2015, 08:00 PM
sekzee
Apr 2 2015, 07:48 PM
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Apr 2 2015, 07:28 PM
sekzee
Apr 2 2015, 07:26 PM
But we don't even know that yet. He simply said it's SSJ fused with SSJG ki.

That's not the same as maintaining the SSJG state and transforming into a SSJ.
And how does he access SSJ God Ki without using SSJ God?
The same way he was able to continue to fight Beerus after he was no longer in the SSJG state...by absorbing [some of] its power.
Why is his hair not blue in Battle of Gods when he goes SSJ, then?
Because he is in base.

He hasn't properly "fused" the two energies together.

I don't know; I haven't seen the movie. :rofl:

Seriously, though...

SSJG (max) > SSJ Goku (post-God)

How? Why? SSJ Goku couldn't do crap against Beerus' blast, but SSJG Goku absorbed it.
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Apr 2 2015, 08:05 PM
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sekzee
Apr 2 2015, 07:48 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Apr 2 2015, 07:28 PM
sekzee
Apr 2 2015, 07:26 PM
But we don't even know that yet. He simply said it's SSJ fused with SSJG ki.

That's not the same as maintaining the SSJG state and transforming into a SSJ.
And how does he access SSJ God Ki without using SSJ God?
The same way he was able to continue to fight Beerus after he was no longer in the SSJG state...by absorbing [some of] its power.
Why is his hair not blue in Battle of Gods when he goes SSJ, then?
Because he is in base.

He hasn't properly "fused" the two energies together.

I don't know; I haven't seen the movie. :rofl:

Seriously, though...

SSJG (max) > SSJ Goku (post-God)

How? Why? SSJ Goku couldn't do crap against Beerus' blast, but SSJG Goku absorbed it.
What? He was in base and went blueper Saiyajin in this film. He hasn't properly fused with the energy yet? Where you getting this from?
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BOG:
Beerus > SSJG Goku > SSJ Goku (post-God) > Base Goku (post-God)

ROF:
Beerus > SSJG Goku ~/=/> SSJB Goku > SSJ Goku (post-God) > Base Goku (post-God)

There is nothing indicating that Vegeta or Goku have surpassed Beerus, despite this new power-up.

In BOG, Goku goes blond. In ROF, Goku goes blue. There is obviously something different that occurred. Although the power exceeds SSJ Goku (post-God) in BOG, it does not appear to surpass Beerus.

In my opinion, because there is nothing indicating that SSJB Goku surpasses SSJG Goku, that it is not a powered-up version of the form. It is still incomplete.
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If it's SSJ + SSJ God like the synopsis says, I can pretty much guarantee it's stronger than SSJ God.
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Goku says it’s hard to explain, but basically it’s Super Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God.
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Then why aren't they pink before transforming? Why are the two forms separate/different?
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Apr 2 2015, 08:48 PM
Then why aren't they pink before transforming? Why are the two forms separate/different?
Because the transformation doesn't require the user to go god then SSJ. The form is a combination of the 2.
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