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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
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Whis says during their training that vegeta is weaker than goku and states a reason for this, my chain would be

Whis > MSSJG Goku & Vegeta as a team > Beerus > MSSJG Goku > MSSJG Vegeta > Gold Frieza > Base Goku > Base Vegeta > 4th Form Frieza

Numbers Wise:
Whis - 15
Beerus - 10
MSSJG Goku - 8
MSSJG Vegeta - 7
Gold Frieza - 6 to 6.5



My Personal opinion though.
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I just can't shake how ridiculous some people's reasons for being against this movie, its plot, characters, choice of villain, setting, progression of the SSJGod form, sounds. I mean. It is no stretch at all to say that the fanbase of Dragon Ball/Z are some of the most selfish and demanding of any anime there is, including Naruto and One Piece. This fanbase would make me want to extend a huge f*ck you to the people that support it for always wanting to b*tch about every single thing, or the small details not liked. Why can't people just be grateful, even if you don't like what is being offered up? Akira had always meant to continue this anime, on his terms and when he was ready to do so. Yes. Akira is working with people to make these movies so he may not have say over every single thing, however I am more then certain that he still has the majority over say and control because it is his manga/anime at the end of the day. No company can just do something with the anime without Akira and his consent, which is how GT came to be in the first place, so far as I know.

I'm just annoyed with all of this complaining, it is so childish and makes this fanbase look like every last thing people call it that's of an insulting nature. Me? I am just happy, excited, grateful, and hopeful that Akira decided to finally pick this anime back up and develop the story beyond where he stopped it while he focused on other ventures.

Don't like what you've read of the new movie? Good for you, don't watch it. You're one or a few disapproving people of millions of supporters anyway. So you're more or less irrelevant. How any of us feel this move or the last one should have played it, is not at all of importance. Akira sees things another way as well as those he's partnered with to make these movies. Who are we but demanding, selfish fans to say otherwise of a mans creation? He's doing this for us, and most likely himself too.

I don't expect this to stop the complaining, in fact I know it won't and I also know it'll likely leave some of you not liking me as much as you may have prior to this post. But someone had to say it, someone had to point it out. Like it or leave it.
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If that's true, that's pretty hilarious.
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I just can't shake how ridiculous some people's reasons for being against this movie, its plot, characters, choice of villain, setting, progression of the SSJGod form, sounds. I mean. It is no stretch at all to say that the fanbase of Dragon Ball/Z are some of the most selfish and demanding of any anime there is, including Naruto and One Piece. This fanbase would make me want to extend a huge f*ck you to the people that support it for always wanting to b*tch about every single thing, or the small details not liked. Why can't people just be grateful, even if you don't like what is being offered up? Akira had always meant to continue this anime, on his terms and when he was ready to do so. Yes. Akira is working with people to make these movies so he may not have say over every single thing, however I am more then certain that he still has the majority over say and control because it is his manga/anime at the end of the day. No company can just do something with the anime without Akira and his consent, which is how GT came to be in the first place, so far as I know.

I'm just annoyed with all of this complaining, it is so childish and makes this fanbase look like every last thing people call it that's of an insulting nature. Me? I am just happy, excited, grateful, and hopeful that Akira decided to finally pick this anime back up and develop the story beyond where he stopped it while he focused on other ventures.

Don't like what you've read of the new movie? Good for you, don't watch it. You're one or a few disapproving people of millions of supporters anyway. So you're more or less irrelevant. How any of us feel this move or the last one should have played it, is not at all of importance. Akira sees things another way as well as those he's partnered with to make these movies. Who are we but demanding, selfish fans to say otherwise of a mans creation? He's doing this for us, and most likely himself too.

I don't expect this to stop the complaining, in fact I know it won't and I also know it'll likely leave some of you not liking me as much as you may have prior to this post. But someone had to say it, someone had to point it out. Like it or leave it.
There's people out there who have different opinions on the movie than you. Such is life.
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I just can't shake how ridiculous some people's reasons for being against this movie, its plot, characters, choice of villain, setting, progression of the SSJGod form, sounds. I mean. It is no stretch at all to say that the fanbase of Dragon Ball/Z are some of the most selfish and demanding of any anime there is, including Naruto and One Piece. This fanbase would make me want to extend a huge f*ck you to the people that support it for always wanting to b*tch about every single thing, or the small details not liked. Why can't people just be grateful, even if you don't like what is being offered up? Akira had always meant to continue this anime, on his terms and when he was ready to do so. Yes. Akira is working with people to make these movies so he may not have say over every single thing, however I am more then certain that he still has the majority over say and control because it is his manga/anime at the end of the day. No company can just do something with the anime without Akira and his consent, which is how GT came to be in the first place, so far as I know.

I'm just annoyed with all of this complaining, it is so childish and makes this fanbase look like every last thing people call it that's of an insulting nature. Me? I am just happy, excited, grateful, and hopeful that Akira decided to finally pick this anime back up and develop the story beyond where he stopped it while he focused on other ventures.

Don't like what you've read of the new movie? Good for you, don't watch it. You're one or a few disapproving people of millions of supporters anyway. So you're more or less irrelevant. How any of us feel this move or the last one should have played it, is not at all of importance. Akira sees things another way as well as those he's partnered with to make these movies. Who are we but demanding, selfish fans to say otherwise of a mans creation? He's doing this for us, and most likely himself too.

I don't expect this to stop the complaining, in fact I know it won't and I also know it'll likely leave some of you not liking me as much as you may have prior to this post. But someone had to say it, someone had to point it out. Like it or leave it.
There's people out there who have different opinions on the movie than you. Such is life.
That's just the truth right there but I had to vent all of that anyway. I'm not trying to sway anyone. Just venting.

I just want the movie to get here so I can see it. DBZ fan for life right here. 28 years old and don't see myself ever not watching DBZ or anime in general.
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Christ imagine a frieza post 2nd ROSAT, would be turning back time to kick bardock in the balls so goku is never born :D
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Mar 31 2015, 05:33 PM
I just can't shake how ridiculous some people's reasons for being against this movie, its plot, characters, choice of villain, setting, progression of the SSJGod form, sounds. I mean. It is no stretch at all to say that the fanbase of Dragon Ball/Z are some of the most selfish and demanding of any anime there is, including Naruto and One Piece. This fanbase would make me want to extend a huge f*ck you to the people that support it for always wanting to b*tch about every single thing, or the small details not liked. Why can't people just be grateful, even if you don't like what is being offered up? Akira had always meant to continue this anime, on his terms and when he was ready to do so. Yes. Akira is working with people to make these movies so he may not have say over every single thing, however I am more then certain that he still has the majority over say and control because it is his manga/anime at the end of the day. No company can just do something with the anime without Akira and his consent, which is how GT came to be in the first place, so far as I know.

I'm just annoyed with all of this complaining, it is so childish and makes this fanbase look like every last thing people call it that's of an insulting nature. Me? I am just happy, excited, grateful, and hopeful that Akira decided to finally pick this anime back up and develop the story beyond where he stopped it while he focused on other ventures.

Don't like what you've read of the new movie? Good for you, don't watch it. You're one or a few disapproving people of millions of supporters anyway. So you're more or less irrelevant. How any of us feel this move or the last one should have played it, is not at all of importance. Akira sees things another way as well as those he's partnered with to make these movies. Who are we but demanding, selfish fans to say otherwise of a mans creation? He's doing this for us, and most likely himself too.

I don't expect this to stop the complaining, in fact I know it won't and I also know it'll likely leave some of you not liking me as much as you may have prior to this post. But someone had to say it, someone had to point it out. Like it or leave it.
People are allowed to voice opinions on what they've heard. I won't write the movie off or anything until I've seen it. Infact I'll probably enjoy it, it's just that some of the decisions seem like missteps at this point. I really enjoyed BOG but there are still things that I'd complain about. Same with the original series.

Do you hold the same feeling of 'anything new being given to us is great and we should be grateful to the creator' when talking about George Lucas?
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He has a point though. Dragon Ball fans are entitled to their opinion like all other people, but they pick on the most ridiculous reasons.

"I hate that the new super Saiyan form has blue hair! Change it!"

Planet Vegeta had a red sky but nobody had a heart attack because they are used to seeing the blue sky of the Earth, surprisingly, nobody was outraged when Gohan had shorter hair in the Buu arc than he did as a teenager, and yet people complained that Super Saiyan doesn't change your hair in Xenoverse when Super Saiyan 1 only ever changed the hair of Goku and Trunks, I don't count Goten or kid Trunks because they have the same hair or are the same character. Super Saiyan 2 maybe, but still, pretty ridiculous, people actually refused to buy it for that reason.

They are all stupid reasons to deny yourself entertainment from something you'd enjoy if you weren't so picky about things that you have no right to demand, thankfully Dragon Ball fans have never reached the level of petitioning to have the series changed and re-written just because Goku didn't get with Bulma (I'm looking at you, Naruto community.)

Also, has anyone seen the new aura the new form has? A few modders found Frieza's god aura and a mysterious new aura in the latest compatibility patch for Xenoverse, they were the only two that didn't match to any existing characters, and the new one must be the new god aura, it's pretty cool, cyan, green and gold.
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I just can't shake how ridiculous some people's reasons for being against this movie, its plot, characters, choice of villain, setting, progression of the SSJGod form, sounds. I mean. It is no stretch at all to say that the fanbase of Dragon Ball/Z are some of the most selfish and demanding of any anime there is, including Naruto and One Piece. This fanbase would make me want to extend a huge f*ck you to the people that support it for always wanting to b*tch about every single thing, or the small details not liked. Why can't people just be grateful, even if you don't like what is being offered up? Akira had always meant to continue this anime, on his terms and when he was ready to do so. Yes. Akira is working with people to make these movies so he may not have say over every single thing, however I am more then certain that he still has the majority over say and control because it is his manga/anime at the end of the day. No company can just do something with the anime without Akira and his consent, which is how GT came to be in the first place, so far as I know.

I'm just annoyed with all of this complaining, it is so childish and makes this fanbase look like every last thing people call it that's of an insulting nature. Me? I am just happy, excited, grateful, and hopeful that Akira decided to finally pick this anime back up and develop the story beyond where he stopped it while he focused on other ventures.

Don't like what you've read of the new movie? Good for you, don't watch it. You're one or a few disapproving people of millions of supporters anyway. So you're more or less irrelevant. How any of us feel this move or the last one should have played it, is not at all of importance. Akira sees things another way as well as those he's partnered with to make these movies. Who are we but demanding, selfish fans to say otherwise of a mans creation? He's doing this for us, and most likely himself too.

I don't expect this to stop the complaining, in fact I know it won't and I also know it'll likely leave some of you not liking me as much as you may have prior to this post. But someone had to say it, someone had to point it out. Like it or leave it.
People are allowed to voice opinions on what they've heard. I won't write the movie off or anything until I've seen it. Infact I'll probably enjoy it, it's just that some of the decisions seem like missteps at this point. I really enjoyed BOG but there are still things that I'd complain about. Same with the original series.

Do you hold the same feeling of 'anything new being given to us is great and we should be grateful to the creator' when talking about George Lucas?
I had plenty I didn't like about the first BoG movie as well. But I was still appreciative and grateful for being given something new.

I wouldn't bring George Lucas in to this because I was never a huge Star Wars fan to begin with. Watched the movies, enjoyed them, but did not glorify or hype them up like so many others did. But I didn't degrade their adulation of the movies either. Simply said they were enjoyable movies and moved on from the conversation.

So. To answer your question. Yes, I do feel that even if someone doesn't like what a series creator gives the fanbase, some level of appreciation or gratitude should be given for receiving something in the first place. I know many here will disagree with me, that is fine and expected. To act snobby are how some have here or that I have read on YouTube...man, it's just so freaking ridiculous. I'd be insulted if I was Akira or maybe disappointed that my fanbase seems oblivious to the concept of still giving gratitude for something. Imagine you've worked hard making a gift for a loved one. You present this gift and they tell you it's garbage and not what they expected, nor wanted. How would that make you feel? Probably not that good. You should still be grateful, regardless of the feelings invested that aren't supportive.

Call that my grown up, rational opinion or whatever haha.
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