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NEW DBZ MOVIE 2015: Fukkatsu no F (Warning: Spoilers in Topic)
Topic Started: Jul 15 2014, 04:56 AM (364,206 Views)
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Mar 25 2015, 02:37 AM
If the numbers Toriyama gave in previous interviews still hold, Freeza overwhelming Goku with such an advantage that we see in the pictures wouldn't fit with Goku being as close to Beerus' strength as he supposedly was prior to the training he's been undergoing since BOG (whilst Beerus has been asleep).
I've thought about this too. Which is why I still can't entirely accept Freeza possibly beating Goku in that trailer we've all watched.

Damn, double post...merge please?
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Whichever way Freeza is beaten, fans will be disappointed.

- Genki-Dama is unwanted.
- Fusion could be awesome, but it would feel like Vegeta's spotlight is being taken by Goku again.
- Beerus beating Freeza and then Whis reversing time would cheapen Freeza.
- Goku beating Freeza would be predictable, unoriginal, generic, and the most disappointing out of all outcomes. Oolong beating Freeza would be better.
- Vegeta beating Freeza would make people question how he got so strong so suddenly (but we lack context as of yet).
- Whis beating Freeza would be out of nowhere with no buildup.
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Mar 25 2015, 02:41 AM
Whichever way Freeza is beaten, fans will be disappointed.

- Genki-Dama is unwanted.
- Fusion could be awesome, but it would feel like Vegeta's spotlight is being taken by Goku again.
- Beerus beating Freeza and then Whis reversing time would cheapen Freeza.
- Goku beating Freeza would be predictable, unoriginal, generic, and the most disappointing out of all outcomes. Oolong beating Freeza would be better.
- Vegeta beating Freeza would make people question how he got so strong so suddenly (but we lack context as of yet).
- Whis beating Freeza would be out of nowhere with no buildup.
Pretty damn true, my friend.

Pretty much every plausible outcome has its own set of issues. But that's just the trouble that follows moving DBZ and its story forward. Toriyama is just a man, after all. So he can't please everyone or flesh out any of those plot holes entirely.

And I would not want another time where Goku beats Freeza either. It'd just be boring. Give the win to Vegeta, even with his sudden power gain seeming pretty out of nowhere. I think we'll understand and have questions answered once we see the movie and things go like what we think it will; Vegeta being the hero.
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Mar 24 2015, 11:01 PM
Uncle Piccolo doesn't sound too bad.
I could see him using a mini Hellozone grenade as a Light trick or his materializations ability for that matter. I don't think he handles the kid because she is so tiny, but I can definitely see him playign with her using his powers to make her smile and laugh
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You've missed one of the potential outcomes. In Chapter 2, Whis highlights the importance of teamwork, so it's entirely possible that Goku and Vegeta work together to beat Freeza.
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Mar 25 2015, 02:52 AM
You've missed one of the potential outcomes. In Chapter 2, Whis highlights the importance of teamwork, so it's entirely possible that Goku and Vegeta work together to beat Freeza.
Could very well be one of the more possible outcomes of the movie and how Freeza is defeated this time. But then people would complain that we've already seen this scenario play out when Vegeta and Goku worked together to beat Meta Cooler.
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And they'd b*** that Vegeta didn't get to do it himself because Goku just had to hog the spotlight again.
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Toriyama just can't win, the poor guy...

But hell. Maybe he should just say f*** all you needy and demanding b***s, Piccolo gets to beat Freeza this time!

Explain that one lol.
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Does anyone else think that Freeza looks offmodel? IDK, but just his regular final form is looking really off to me in this new trailer. He looks too chubby
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Mar 25 2015, 02:59 AM
Does anyone else think that Freeza looks offmodel? IDK, but just his regular final form is looking really off to me in this new trailer. He looks too chubby
Few too many pints of ice cream.
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Also, Master Roshi is now Saiyan Saga Piccolo Tier
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Mar 25 2015, 03:02 AM
Also, Master Roshi is now Saiyan Saga Piccolo Tier
Yeah, the dude is just straight up owning henchmen in the trailer.

And we see Gohan blast a whole army or at least a large group of henchman, too. Meh.
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There is a serious lack of Vegeta in this trailers. A few shots of him here and there but absolutely nothing with him in combat. Either Vegeta is going to have a huge role or he is in this way less than many of us are expecting.

For the Vegeta fans, our imaginations may end up being our own worst enemy lol.
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Mar 25 2015, 02:57 AM
Toriyama just can't win, the poor guy...
I don't know. I can't imagine a ton of people will complain if Vegeta wins this one time, so that'd be the preferable outcome IMO.
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I still will lmao if it ends with Krillin coming up at he end from behind with a Destructo Disc. I can imagine the looks of the Saiyans and piccolo, even the audience. As a matter of a fact I hope he kills off the bull guy like that with piccolo and Gohan on the ropes at least
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